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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Phil Coopy on February 14, 2009, 03:18:25 PM
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Anybody ever seen a stunt model made as a Gee Bee Model D Sportster? I'm thinking about trying to make a profile one .40 size with about 500-550 sq in, and raising the wing some in the fuse, and maybe lengthening the coupling a little, and making an approptiate increase in stab/elev size. I think it would look kinda cool.
Phil
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I think so,
At least there was a version called the G-Bee Extended that was built by Bob Miller that was published in Flying Models in June of 1966. I saw Jim Lee fly his model of the airplane at the Nat's in 97 or 98. It flew very well, might even have won the classic event, but I don't really remember where it actually placed.
Jim Pollock H^^
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well how about a Y model sportster?
Brodak ARC wing from a P-40 and the fuse is built up profile. Tail surfaces are laminated perimeters with ribs and some sheeting. Flies AWESOME best plane I have flying now,, (ok the other ones are in splinters but it is still a great flying plane)
There are a couple threads on here with build pictures but I can not find them now?
anyhow, I have plans
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Phil,
I "think" there was one at Bodak's, two or three years ago.
Not sure who built/owned,flew it.
Maybe he/she frequents this forum and will respond.
Roger V.
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I flew Intermediate at the Nats in 99 against a guy with more than a couple of Gee Bees. From Ohio, I think. Outside of Columbus. Super nice guy. Was at the Brodak event more than once. Can't think of his name.
Smart guy that I am, I was critiquing his triangles for him all week, and then sweating his last flight. Ha! He placed second.
Everybody likes a Gee Bee. They're a little short, but the effect isn't lost if you stretch 'em a bit.
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Clayton,
I think his name is Jeff Kemp. He initially did a profile version in red and white and then a full fuse version in black and yellow. Seems that I recall that the full fuse one was offered for sale a couple of years ago on SSW (pre-SH daze...). Ted Hienritz from the Philly group has also been seen with a profile one at Brodak's.
John
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Clayton,
I think his name is Jeff Kemp. He initially did a profile version in red and white and then a full fuse version in black and yellow. Seems that I recall that the full fuse one was offered for sale a couple of years ago on SSW (pre-SH daze...). Ted Hienritz from the Philly group has also been seen with a profile one at Brodak's.
John
John,
You are correct. Just checked AMA listing... Jeff Kemp's model is the Gee Bee Model Z, has a 52" span, was published in MA 3/02, and is plan # 00924.
George
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Jeff's GB-Z was published in the 3/02 issue of Model Aviation. That's a very interesting an somewhat lavish article. Spanning 52" and weighing 43 oz, it was for .35 - .40 engines at the time. Apparently he flew it with a SSW OS (FP?) .35. The beam type wing with strip-ribs and cross bracing and built-up fuselage are fairly complex, although most ribs are the same length. The wing sections are thick (about 25% for non-flapped portion) and blunt. There are 2 pages of plans and a cutaway. I saw this plane fly a couple times, and it impressed me with pretty tight corners. The Kemp full bodied model is quite a unique piece of work. I got the idea that he needed to get away from the hobby.
SK
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Remi Berringer won the world champs with his Gee Bee,
Pat Johnston has plans for the QE2 and the Gee Bee in profile
There are a number of plans for Gee Bees and variants - I have at least 5 different ones on file
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There is always Mike Garmon’s Wedell William's Racer.
Willis
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well how about a Y model sportster?
Brodak ARC wing from a P-40 and the fuse is built up profile. Tail surfaces are laminated perimeters with ribs and some sheeting. Flies AWESOME best plane I have flying now,, (ok the other ones are in splinters but it is still a great flying plane)
There are a couple threads on here with build pictures but I can not find them now?
anyhow, I have plans
This was a good lokin plane before the chrash? HB~> HB~> HB~> HB~>
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I have several sets of plans on order for Gee Bee Model D. Re-design will be necessary for stunt, but will start with plans.
MAN Gentle Gee Bee plan #12941
AMA Gee Bee Model Y plan # 299C
MAN Gee Bee Model D (H. Haffke) # 13360
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Floyd
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Remi Berringer won the world champs with his Gee Bee,
That wasn't much like a GeeBee, although it's a pretty good stunt model. I have flown a Gee Bee stunter like the one shown in the first post, and like Jim Lee's, and it was a pretty good flier with a McCoy 40 Series 21. Pulled my arm out of the socket, as I recall, for some reason.
Brett
Remi's airplane at the 2004 WC:
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This was a good lokin plane before the chrash? HB~> HB~> HB~> HB~>
uh thanks Leo?
but before which crash, that poor bird has been in the ground several times, and its still a great flying plane! Ask Scott Riese, he flew it several times and reported it to be a VERY honest great flying plane!
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Jeff Kemp. Correct. Heck of a nice guy.
His plane had a stall on the bottom of the triangle. You could see it, and I'm sure he felt it. I had something similar with a somewhat overweight Super Clown. I backed off on the flaps, and it sort of stopped doing it. Still doesn't fly worth a darn, but it's handy on balloon bust days. Has a sandcast two bolt Fox 35 on it, with what I think is an Austin needle valve assembly. Hard corners are not what it does best. Haning in the little guy's bedroom is probably what it does best.
Anyway. Not sure of the details of Jeff's Gee Bee, but I do recall a roll of plans somewhere along the way. I think they are very cool, but like a P 51 - not the best thing to model. Hey, what do I know. We'd be watching full scale modified Twisters with logos from watchmakers and breweries and database companies if I were in charge. I'm number 2098 down on the list of being in charge - we're safe.
And if someone runs into Jeff Kemp - please let him know I said hello.
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Jim Lee if I remember right had two different Streched Gee Bee's. The second I remember him doing very well with it all over this great country. Will send him an e-mail to wake him up to this post. Have fun, DOC Holliday
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Doc
Actually I have built three of the Bob Miller Gee Bee's.... The first in 1967 with a plain bearing Enya 45, which lasted a year or two..... Did the second one about 1971 or 72. Used the same Enya then a Fox 59.... The 59 didn't make it go any faster, but it did not slow down for anything, including the ground......!!! Then the last one was finished in time for the 1996 VSC... One of Lew Woolards best Fox 40's and 52 - 53 oz. Very nice airplane!!! One of my favorites. It lasted about 4 years, did well at VSC and the Nats, but never won.... And, yes #4 has been started for several years, my supply of roun tuits has run low....
Actually the full scale Gee Bee Y that the Bob Miller version is sorta a take off of.. has a short nose and long tail.... Just a big model...... that huge fuselage throws off the perspective....
Later
Jim
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After reading a lot of positive posts on the Gee Bee I decided to try and build one for myself. I think I'm gonna use a modified P-40 wing from Brodak. I changed the profile aspect a bit as you can see by the two top tracings making it a little sleeker and I'm raising the wing some. I'm going to increase the stab/elev area some from the scale ratio. The airfoil shown is from the Vector, don't think I'll be using that. Gotta order a set of plans from Brodak so I can start on the wing. More later.......
Phil
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Be prepared....cause I will want a copy of those plans, and I'm sure everyone else will too! ~^ H^^ Keep us posted with your project, everyone loves Gee Bee's!
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well if you need an option, plans for mine are available too