Thanks for the info Dave. I still find it amazing that they just don't cut their losses and go for the real problem and that is the forward point of view cameras and GPS guidance systems. Take those away and what have you got? Not any where near the same as some one flying their vintage Kaos pattern ship!Sailplanes are going to be hurt the worst. I kept flying them for a couple of years when I stopped stunt in '82 because the field was less than a mile from my house. A lot of the guys I flew with had some stunt flying in their resume. Expect some of them back. City hall has won this one. I think registering is a wise thing to do and I truly hope the FAA puts something in writing that will be distributed to local offices. First I have heard of the 100mph rule. What is the point of that anyway? Did some FAA type get hit by a dolly when he was a kid?
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
HOLY CRAP!!!!!Crap maybe but it is not Holly yet. It is not until the final regulations are published and distributed to the field WITH an exemption in writhing that we can rest. I got a similar response several months ago and I have a copy in my flight box. Also, that response only covers one small part of the new regulations - "there is no requirement for an agreement at this time."
I keep harping That any response from some underling at AMA, DOT, FAA does not change the WRITTEN AND CODIFIED DOT/FAA RULING....a bit of illegitimate legislation that has the power of constitutional law at the FEDERAL level. So far...the written Rules on craft in the /national airspace ONLY exempt any craft under a very light weight....period. all other flying craft are subject to all rules (federal law) as written
You will never get to court to defend yourself with any of these worthless letters....your own expensive lawyer will advise you to be contrite and plead for forgiveness to the FAA
If some law official cites you with non compliance and the local FAA field office is bored and wants to look like they earn their keep.... they may or may not choose to prosecute...in court....
BUT still you will be required to sit for a hearing with the local FAA. When you waive your right to a trial they will offer you to plead guilty and pay a fine. YOU ARE NOW a FEDERAL Felon and have just lost your voting and gun owner rights in USA----forever.
Do not doubt me on this the FCC and FAA cite and prosecute citizens all the time to prove to congress they are doing their chartered job.....
Above was a observation that all the drone hubbub was about clearing airspace for commercial drone ops...well duh....of the 4700+/- respondents in 2012 to the FAA proposed Rulemaking...MOST were corporate lawyers representing 40 or 50 companies who have vested interests in being legitimately licensed and many had their insurance companies asking for THE RULES so they could effectively write risk mitigation into the policies
the FAA was only ever tangentially concerned with low cost hobby drones... and then only because the news had several incidents where they did interfere with emergency operations or airport flight ops....
A commercial Drone for Surveillance , overhead photography, Animal / game managment, remote area search for missing humans, and dozens of other legitimate uses ...those drones are NOT cheap...$16,000~ $35,000 typically and the trained operator who need licensing..... To the door delivery is just a novel idea of Google, Dominoes and Amazon...and it has or will happen in very small areas....but the major companies ...all of them that are or will use drones commercially--- need liability insurance and Legal authorization to operate....
Dave are they saying that if you fly RC Fixed wing models you have to take the Part 107 FAA test?
Thank you
Mike
No, the Part 107 registration is still different than recreational drone pilot registration. The requirement for recreational drone pilots to take a test was in the 2018 legislation but deferred until the FAA could determine how to administer such a test.Thanks for the correction, I found that sentence. It is so that for now you would not need to take the test but still have to follow most the other rules. This is labeled as a temporary matter and could change. Again this is really a concern for RC. Control line looks pretty safe for now. There have been a couple suggestions made to AMA about getting a more clear CL exclusion written into the FAA rules in their talks with them, so the meaning is obvious to lay people, law enforcement and city government , with no room for debate.. Your city could still outlaw model flying if they wish but it couldn't be based upon FAA rules.
Dave, It seems a little strange that Chad had to learn from you about control line being exempt. Are they not supposed to have all the straight dope from the FAA? And should this good news have been posted on the AMA website? Was Chad all excited to post this good news right away on the AMA website? I think they could care less to be right honest. Sad but true. We were only numbers to add to the whole. That did not work. Now they could care less what happens with us. We have already been used and they are done with us. Just the way I see it.Jim I can only say that the squeaky wheel gets greased. Chad has been returning my emails within minutes and seems to have a genuine (newfound?) interest in control line and listening to us. I can see they might be unsure about the future of growth in RC given all this and know they need to redirect a little attention towards CL and free flight which he also talked about. Maybe our stock went up.
OK, as a pilot for decades, I need to ask where some people get their information from that has them so hate the FAA they have to write in caps and tell people they'll be felons? (Not True BTW, usually not even a misdemeanor!)
I have - and again this is over a few decades - always found the FAA people I've interacted with to be professional, reasonable people who are often aeromodelers.
Yes Mike that's the jest of it. Also if your airplanes exceeds 100 mph you have to get extra waivers. I'm hoping this will mostly clear control line. If not you'd have to get a clearance from the FAA to take your combat ship or rat racer up. We've been hearing many different interpretations since the latest rendition began from the FAA in October. This time I got this straight form the horse's mouth, so to speak. I'm taking this that we may not have to have anything to do with this rubbish. I'm registered and still think this is wise. If nothing else you get sent info on what is going on. Once in a while I might fly a little free flight or put an RC assist FF old timer in the air. Unless I follow through the RC stuff may not fly again. I talked to Chad Budreau at AMA today and he said this was good news and that they had been trying to work out the issues with FAA on CL and FF-maybe successfully it seems. RC is in a heap of it though. They will get the full measure from FAA. It seems pretty clear to me that this wasn't as much to do with airport/aviation safety as it is about clearing airspace for business and delivery drone operators. This new 'DroneZone' email and rules explanation seem to say just that. Monied interests win again.......AMA really never had a chance no matter what they did. The other side of this played it masterfully. If you fly CL on a shared RC field you might get caught up in it if your can't produce a registration.
Chuck, sir also with all due respect
I indeed have experience with a Federal bureaucracy and their enforcement actions...I have first hand experience with the FCC....my opinions are a belief and fact based set of assumptions.
I say IF you are ever cited under any FAA regulation/ rule you will have to defend yourself with an expensive lawyer.
I say the written rules are what will be adjudicated...not what some AMA or FAA minion opines...
The exact wording of any Federal Regulation, or sub part, as written--- will be what the Lawyers and Judges adhere to. IF YOU ARE CITED.
I have to wonder why the FAA can't (won't) define/exempt free-flight and CL. Yes, I am also a conspiracy theorist.
What is LAANC?Low Altitude Authorization and Notification Capability
They made it pretty clear to us in our training that a UAS involved a data link of some kind ...
I never dreamed flying toy airplanes would ever become this convoluted.
Mike