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Title: Free Speech Zone
Post by: RC Storick on January 11, 2021, 10:46:47 PM: Well, it looks like the TARDS won this time but I can assure you it will turn out bad for everyone. Don't say I didn't warn you. I will be closing the FSZ as there are too many cray babies and I don't need the headache. I would like to add if any of the combative people try to drag their BS into the main forum I will delete your accounts and ban your IP. I have had enough!
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on January 12, 2021, 11:27:34 AM: And not a moment too soon.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: EddyR on January 12, 2021, 11:51:06 AM: URBAN Dictionary says TARDS

"Someone who is stupid, but in an annoying way. In fact, if they were actually mentally retarded it would be a dramatic improvement."

This is to funny . Thank you Sparky
EddyR
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Randy Powell on January 12, 2021, 01:59:05 PM: I've kinda avoided that area. If I want to hear people screaming about politics, I can go to facebook.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Brett Buck on January 12, 2021, 02:11:09 PM: Quote from: Randy Powell on January 12, 2021, 01:59:05 PM
I've kinda avoided that area. If I want to hear people screaming about politics, I can go to facebook.

Indeed, the signal-to-noise ratio was pretty low. However, I think you will find that most of the "noise", pre-forum, was due to "baiting", which was nearly unilaterally one direction. If a very few people would resist the urge to bait someone in a way that essentially demands a response, there would have been very little off-topic arguing.

I am perfectly content to stay on-topic otherwise.

Brett
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: RandySmith on January 12, 2021, 03:52:06 PM: Quote from: RC Storick on January 11, 2021, 10:46:47 PM
Well, it looks like the TARDS won this time but I can assure you it will turn out bad for everyone. Don't say I didn't warn you. I will be closing the FSZ as there are too many cray babies and I don't need the headache. I would like to add if any of the combative people try to drag their BS into the main forum I will delete your accounts and ban your IP. I have had enough!

GOOD move ! I really got tired of all the people going there, then filling my inbox up with complaints that they are mad that someone posted their speech, and it did not agree with them !
Wanting me to delete the others post
R
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: wwwarbird on January 12, 2021, 08:29:14 PM: Good move Sparky, the sheep that don't "get it" never will anyway. And yeah, thanks to them we're ALL in deep s--t.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Ara Dedekian on January 13, 2021, 05:28:34 AM: Quote from: FLOYD CARTER on January 12, 2021, 11:27:34 AM
And not a moment too soon.

I Agree. The "zone" had me seriously considering leaving Stunthangar. This is supposed to be a place where we come for engineering debates and ideas, not political vitriol. However, I had to remind myself of the other category we visitors to the site are members of so as not to leave; . . . . mostly old guys on meds'.

Ara
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: GallopingGhostler on January 14, 2021, 04:07:12 AM: The best part about deleting the Free Speech Zone was also silencing a few of those whose posts in Stunt Hangar seemed concentrated in only that forum.

There is nothing wrong with posting an opposing view, but many of these posts were personal attacks on posters' characters instead of proper discussion. The insults and antagonisms were uncalled for.

Most interesting was when a few I posted in reply explained and exposed their nasty ulterior motives, I got no response in reply, was almost like extinguishing a flame.

Thanks Sparky for deleting that forum, the noise to signal ratio has greatly decreased.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Mike Greb on January 14, 2021, 04:39:07 AM: The free speech zone disappeared after I had posted something. I was wondering if I had killed it LL~
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Skip Chernoff on January 14, 2021, 05:44:59 AM: Based on so much of the normal back and forth here on "off" topics I was surprised that you (Sparky) opened up a Free Speech Zone. As I see it the Free Speech Zone might have worked if the fox wasn't watching the hen house.Right from the start the FSZ became a platform for some to spew their political ideology and got their panties in a knot when others with a different view gave theirs. In fact, opposing views were often deleted. In any case , I know you made the correct move by shutting it down. PhillySkip
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Dennis Moritz on January 14, 2021, 07:55:45 AM: Sparky, thank you for hosting the Circus. Always fun. I have worked hard to educate and influence all to follow their better angles. Well. Not exactly. This has been a guilty pleasure. Brett is right in my case. Often I've done my best to provoke and agitate the old and entrenched who see it differently. It's been a creative and impassioned back and forth. Perhaps keeping the passion here, keeping it to words, helps defuse. Taking it to the streets can mean physical harm which cannot be undone. Better here than there. At the moment best to cool it. Even on this forum. Someone may say something that causes them inconvenience. Touchy moment. Difficult moment. Our beloved country teeters a bit. I'm optimistic in any case. We'll come through, hopefully for the better. Love you all. Really. Especially when I'm not pissed off. That always passes.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Dennis Moritz on January 14, 2021, 08:23:20 AM: How could you delete anything Skip says. A consummate gentleman I have known for years.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: GallopingGhostler on January 14, 2021, 10:31:28 PM: Regarding deleting, I saw pornographic photos get deleted. These were out of place. I saw a few personal attacks with very insulting and uncalled for language get deleted. People are people, moderators are people, there may have been a few mistakes but overall I believe they were taking care of the abusive posts swiftly.

Now that this is behind us, I look forward to the return of CL discussions.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Chuck Matheny on January 14, 2021, 11:23:39 PM: Quote from: wwwarbird on January 12, 2021, 08:29:14 PM
Good move Sparky, the sheep that don't "get it" never will anyway. And yeah, thanks to them we're ALL in deep s--t.

In pre WWII Germany there were basically 2 different camps of Jews.
There were those who saw the warning signs early.. of their freedoms being taken away and many of them tried to warn the others. They were ridiculed by the Jews in the other camp and labeled "Conspiracy Theorists".
These were the Jews who got out of Dodge.
The Jews in the other camp...they were the ones who stayed behind.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Brett Buck on January 14, 2021, 11:49:55 PM: One thing that was clearly illustrated, and the root cause of almost all of our problems, is proclaiming loyalty to particular people, instead of ideas and principles. It has long been obvious in the left, but the events of last week starkly illustrate that at least some on the "right" do it, too.

The other observation is that the last week or so are among the most miserable I have spent in my 60ish years.

Brett
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: RC Storick on January 15, 2021, 03:55:13 AM: Quote from: Brett Buck on January 14, 2021, 11:49:55 PM

The other observation is that the last week or so are among the most miserable I have spent in my 60ish years.

Brett

Have faith Brett all will be revealed Declass https://linktr.ee/kagbabe The storm is upon us

watch this with an open mind
https://youtu.be/xYJGgr-ufLk
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Dwayne Donnelly on January 15, 2021, 05:37:30 AM: Dear lord Sparky you have to stop doing this to yourself, it's not true, none of it, multiple Countries now? Please Sparky it's time to end this, it didn't happen, it's fake news. No disrespect intended.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: EddyR on January 15, 2021, 06:48:06 AM: Sparky. You keep telling-everyone to stop , But you are the problem. You keep lighting the flame.
You are doing the very thing that you are complaining about.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Chuck Matheny on January 15, 2021, 07:23:09 AM: Quote from: Dwayne Donnelly on January 15, 2021, 05:37:30 AM
Dear lord Sparky you have to stop doing this to yourself, it's not true, none of it, multiple Countries now? Please Sparky it's time to end this, it didn't happen, it's fake news. No disrespect intended.
Well for starters..try to debunk this....
A staggering number of votes required adjudication. This was a 2020 issue not
seen in previous election cycles still stored on the server. This is caused by
intentional errors in the system. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of
ballots with no oversight, no transparency or audit trail. Our examination of the
server logs indicates that this high error rate was incongruent with patterns from
previous years. The statement attributing these issues to human error is not
consistent with the forensic evaluation, which points more correctly to systemic
machine and/or software errors. The systemic errors are intentionally designed to
create errors in order to push a high volume of ballots to bulk adjudication.
13. The linked video demonstrates how to cheat at adjudication:
https://mobile.twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1336888454538428418
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Dwayne Donnelly on January 15, 2021, 07:31:36 AM: Quote from: Chuck Matheny on January 15, 2021, 07:23:09 AM
Well for starters..try to debunk this....
A staggering number of votes required adjudication. This was a 2020 issue not
seen in previous election cycles still stored on the server. This is caused by
intentional errors in the system. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of
ballots with no oversight, no transparency or audit trail. Our examination of the
server logs indicates that this high error rate was incongruent with patterns from
previous years. The statement attributing these issues to human error is not
consistent with the forensic evaluation, which points more correctly to systemic
machine and/or software errors. The systemic errors are intentionally designed to
create errors in order to push a high volume of ballots to bulk adjudication.
13. The linked video demonstrates how to cheat at adjudication:
https://mobile.twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1336888454538428418
No Chuck it's over. Time to end this. It's time to delete this whole thread and move forward.
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Chuck Matheny on January 15, 2021, 07:40:06 AM: Quote from: Dwayne Donnelly on January 15, 2021, 07:31:36 AM
No Chuck it's over. Time to end this. It's time to delete this whole thread and move forward.
So are you saying that you could debunk this if you wanted to... LL~?
Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Dwayne Donnelly on January 15, 2021, 08:01:29 AM: Quote from: Chuck Matheny on January 15, 2021, 07:40:06 AM
So are you saying that you could debunk this if you wanted to... LL~?
On January 20th 2021 Joe Biden will be sworn in as the 46th President of the United States of America. It's over time to move on. I wish you all the best. Peace out
Title: Free Speech Zone
Post by: RC Storick on January 15, 2021, 08:03:52 AM: Quote from: Dwayne Donnelly on January 15, 2021, 08:01:29 AM
On January 20th 2021 Joe Biden will be sworn in as the 46th President of the United States of America. It's over time to move on. I wish you all the best. Peace out
We will see what happens in five days if I am wrong I will admit Slow Joe won but if I’m right will you admit Trump is still your president?

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Title: Re: Free Speech Zone
Post by: Chuck Matheny on January 15, 2021, 08:22:19 AM: Quote from: Dwayne Donnelly on January 15, 2021, 08:01:29 AM
On January 20th 2021 Joe Biden will be sworn in as the 46th President of the United States of America. It's over time to move on. I wish you all the best. Peace out
Instead of demanding to have this thread deleted..why don't you start your own forum Adolph...?