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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Arnaldo on May 01, 2020, 01:09:50 PM
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Hello Everybody,
as you more expert knows, where was manifactured the Fox 35 stunt 50th and 60th anniversary editions? Is it right in China?
Please let me know because I have a debate with a my friend.
Thanks for any help.
Arnaldo
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I may be wrong but I think all Foxes from the fifties on were made in Ft Smith Arkansas.
Very early ones were made in California.
Bob Z.
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I was born in fort Smith in '82. They were there. And my friend Tina worked there in the 80's and 90's ( I believe)
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I have an early California made Fox.25 new in box and it has two names on it, like Fox and Aldrich or something like that. Then Duke moved to Arkansas for cheaper labor, and all Fox engines were made there up until the cessation of production in 2014 I believe. They continued for a short while as a general machine shop, then closed there doors for good. Meccoa bought t heir inventory and tooling and has some parts listed at their web site.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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Fox-Arnold
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There's video online of the Fox factory, which was USA all the way. You can read Duke's life story pretty easily online, too.
This fellow bought the line: http://www.mecoa.com/about.htm (http://www.mecoa.com/about.htm)
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Think u may have missed the question.
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What are we missing? The engines were made in the USA, not China.
Life story: https://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/Fox.htm (https://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/Fox.htm)
Video evidence, USA style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtFYYMSBQUo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtFYYMSBQUo)
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Well Arnaldo I have a fox 50th anniversary engine new in box. Pulled it out and took a look at it, no sign of China on the box, literature or the engine itself. I cannot speak for the 60th anniversary engine maybe some one who has on can chime in. I never met Duke Fox but from what I understand he would have rather been burned at the stake alive than have his engines built in China or have them contain Chinese manufactured parts, just my humble opinion.
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Worked for Fox Mfg off/on from Aug '70 to Oct '75.
Bucy Die Casting of California did the casting work.
"99% of their business was for the ;US Gummint. 1% toy airplane motors."
Not even close. During my early years at Fox, Duke was still machining parachute loops and bomb pieces, as the Vietnam war was winding down, but at its height, the government work under Duke's leadership was no where near 99%. Duke had his faults, but he was staunchly pro-American mfg'ing. (Can you blame him?) There were small contracts up to the end of my years at Fox, but the vast majority of Duke's productions during my years there were model airplane engines, accessories, supplies, fuel, etc.
I can assure you that there were NEVER any engines, or even engine parts, made overseas. The only parts NOT made in-house were the casting parts. Aside from the raw castings, we machined (including the raw castings), honed, ground, assembled stuff WE made in house.
Make no mistake, Duke had his faults, but he was pretty darn good at designing durable engines that performed for their intended purposes and were affordably priced.
Andre
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Ah, that address! Arnold & Fox Engineering Co., 7401 Varna Ave., North Hollywood, California, USA. Thus spake the brief write-up of the early Fox 35 (the one with the two-bolt backplate) in my 1950 AeroModeller Annual. Specified fuel was: 'Castor Oil 33%, Methanol 25%, Nitro Methane 42%', and the quoted retail price was $11.95. In England in the early 1950s, when you couldn't even buy a bar of chocolate without your Ration Book, it looked and sounded so wonderful that owning one - let alone being able to afford fuel with 42% nitro in it - was utterly beyond my imagination!
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Hello everybody,
thanks for your deep explanations about Fox, I appreciate it.
Regards from Italy
Arnaldo
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Gentlemen,
Thought you would enjoy the photos of my Fox-Arnold engine
Michael Jennings
Knoxville, TN