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Offline Ty Marcucci

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A different wing cracking.
« on: July 25, 2011, 04:56:32 PM »
During one of the last flights, while landing, a member floated his SV11 over to the area were we had been launching from. The plane ballooned just a tad and came in hard, on the nose. We heard loud crack and all assumed it was the prop. Nope, it was intact, but the leg of the out board landing gear had a crack just above the pant. No biggie, but we also noticed an angled crack between the two ribs above the gear in the top LE sheeting. Didn't seems like a big crack, the kind a touch of super glue repairs. Nothing else seemed out of kilter. Next flight he mentioned it seems to have gone out of trim. Later during the last flight, at the bottom of the second outside loop, it twisted to the left and went straight in. The outboard wing was 15 feet away from all the litter. Engine in the mud deep. Plastic tank, less plumbing was 25 feet away. Lots of tiny pieces and the sudden silence and the look of dismay and shock on the flyers face. Not a pretty scene and that plane was a very nice flying SV11.

We figured out what happened by the way the sheeting was ripped and the fact the rear joining spar just pulled out and had very little to NO glue at the ribs sites. The impact caused the bad joints to fail to the point the wing ripped off the plane. Out side loops put a ton of stress on our tiny planes.

Moral is, if you go through the trouble to install proper controls, while at it check ALL glue joints on that ARC.
Hot glue just does NOT do the job. Also if you come in hard and hear a crack, STOP flying and go home and investigate every glue joint/spar you can possibly get to. Remove the covering, use a mirror, eyeball stuff. Hidden damage has cost me three planes in the last five years, so I know this happens to others. This wasn't mine, but I felt the pain. FWIW  I very seldom take photos of other guys wrecks. It seems insulting in a way, so none on here..
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 12:21:57 PM by Ty Marcucci »
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Re: A different wing cracking.
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 07:41:35 PM »
Had a similar thing Ty.

Floated the  T-47 on landing and dropped it on the ground from about a foot at very low ground speed( head wind). Heard a 'crack' and thought well need to fix the landing gear block area.
By the time I had walked to the airplane had the repair and beefing all planed out.
Wiggled the landing gear and all was ok.

Fly again?OK!

While fueling noticed a tear in the top covering at center of bay outboard of outboard gear block bay.
HUMMMM. That is weird.
And a crack in L.E. sheeting.
Roll up the lines......

Removed covering and found that Spars, L.E., L.E. sheeting and 3/32nd hard vertical grain shear web all shared the same crack!

Added cross grain shear web to vertical grain web and super glued all cracks. So far so good.....
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Re: A different wing cracking.
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 10:35:27 AM »
For the life of me I can't build a Legacy size ship under 62 ounces or about 13 oz/sq ft wing loading. My airplanes fly just fine and have never experienced a structural failure. Me thinks some of the failures might be attributed to trying to build too light  ???

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Re: A different wing cracking.
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 10:47:37 AM »
For the life of me I can't build a Legacy size ship under 62 ounces or about 13 oz/sq ft wing loading. My airplanes fly just fine and have never experienced a structural failure. Me thinks some of the failures might be attributed to trying to build too light  ???

 It was an ARC, so at least the pilots didn't try to build it too light. I would suspect the same issues that the OP mentioned - pink hot-melt glue and 11-year old girls working for 22 cents a day.

   13 oz per square foot not only isn't too heavy, it seems to be just what you want. The compromises you have to make to get it significantly lighter are counterproductive. We all just got blown away, despite our best efforts, by an airplane that was 15 oz/square foot.


     Brett

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Re: A different wing cracking.
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 12:48:47 PM »
  We all just got blown away, despite our best efforts, by an airplane that was 15 oz/square foot.
     Brett
You are refering to the ThunderGazer, right ?
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