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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Garf on May 26, 2012, 08:10:42 PM

Title: FM Renewal
Post by: Garf on May 26, 2012, 08:10:42 PM
I just got my renewal for Flying Models. Seems to me the price is a little steep for a mag that is so thin with so little C/L content. I am going to have to think hard about renewing.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Brian Massey on May 26, 2012, 08:33:35 PM
Makes Stunt News a real bargain!

Brian
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Jim Thomerson on May 26, 2012, 08:43:11 PM
Compare the control line content of Flying Models with any other general model aviation magazine.  FM wins hands down.  I'm OK with construction and how to articles for other areas of modeling as well.  Again compare FM and tell us what you think.  Question.  How many control line model construction articles in FM in the last year?  How many Stunt and Combat columns?  (Hint, 12 each.)  Incidentally, Aeromodeller is scheduled to resume stand alone publication shortly. 

Take a look at the last issue of Model Aviation and shed a tear for the days gone by.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Garf on May 26, 2012, 09:44:48 PM
We're not given a choice with MA.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: wwwarbird on May 27, 2012, 12:31:13 AM
 As far as magazines still available to the general public at the news stand, Flying Models is the only true MODELERS magazine left. That is fact.

 I continue to applaud their sticking to the roots of Model Aviation, especially the building part of the hobby with detailed construction articles in every issue. I greatly anticipate receiving it each month, have for many years, and enjoy the fact that almost every page contains information and advertising pertinent to MODELING. I will continue to subscribe as long as those policies hold true, whatever the price.

 
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Bill Hummel on May 27, 2012, 05:18:37 AM
Agreed, Flying Models IS the only true modeling mag out there...aside from Stunt News!  Never ceases to amaze me that guys will pay $7 for a cup of "flavored" coffee, but will gripe about costs of hobby stuff...
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Hoss Cain on May 27, 2012, 09:36:37 AM
Agreed, Flying Models IS the only true modeling mag out there...aside from Stunt News!  Never ceases to amaze me that guys will pay $7 for a cup of "flavored" coffee, but will gripe about costs of hobby stuff...

Ain't that the TRUTH?  Same for flying facilities. So many spend hundreds to thousands for some specific model but P&M about a flying club dues which support a decent flying facility.

I stick with FM also.  They have to survive in a FREE MARKET. Therefore they are not like the big mag. that can be sent out to so many while enduring a 1.6 MILLION YANKEE GREENS LOSS each year that is financed through your dues monies.  S?P
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: larry borden on May 27, 2012, 11:17:14 AM
Model Aviation is now including model rockets. SHEESH!
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Bootlegger on May 27, 2012, 01:39:55 PM

   y1   I sent my renewal for Flying Models last week, I appreciate the mag that they put out, as for M A that is a mag of advertisments only, very seldom any c/l activity in it.
  F/M is a modelers magazine in my thoughts, and I plan to keep my subscription for a while.

  I send my M/A to an elementary school where I am a crossing guard..

  Your mileage may vary... n~
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: john e. holliday on May 27, 2012, 02:09:32 PM
I agree that Flying Models is the leading publication on the magazine rack.   But, with the internet and forums, I am surprised any model magazine still exists. H^^
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Garf on May 27, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
Although I agree with most peoples opinion of FM, It is still hard to justify the cost VS return on the mag. I'll have to think about this one for a while.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: John Cralley on May 27, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
For what it is worth, I let my subscription expire. I'm on fixed retirement and just could not justify the cost.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Joejust on May 27, 2012, 03:46:47 PM
Agreed, Flying Models IS the only true modeling mag out there...aside from Stunt News! 

Don't forget Control Line World, covering all phases of CL.
Joe
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Bill Mohrbacher on May 27, 2012, 04:22:13 PM
If you go to Toledo or Wram Show, FM is $25 per year
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: billbyles on May 27, 2012, 07:15:15 PM
If you go to Toledo or Wram Show, FM is $25 per year

Pretty handy for us west coast modelers.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: larry borden on May 27, 2012, 07:20:06 PM
I thought it was funny that the latest MA actually had an article on scratch building. I guess all the RC boys have gone to arf and arc.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: 50+AirYears on May 28, 2012, 11:56:58 PM
No, not all the RC guys have gone to ARF and ARC.  But, they are going pretty heavy on things like Depron and EPP foam
Entertained a few club members at our RC field yeaterday with my Fox .35 powered, rather trashy after 14 years, CL shoestring.  Most of them were sitting around because the winds were around 20 to 25, but some were amazed at just how much one cn do with CL.  And very amused when the engine went dry just starting to enter the upwind side.  Took me less than an hour to glue things back togeter, and probably will take about tht to replace part of the bottom starboard wing covering.
On a couple other days, I've entertained them with rubber powered FF, Hand Launched Glider, and CO-2 FF.
I'm not predjudiced - -I'll fly anything.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: john e. holliday on May 29, 2012, 06:49:51 AM
That is the way to go.   I flew a flight one evening on a Ringmaster when I was told it was too dark to fly and I would get dizzy.   Told the son to move fast as soon as he released the plane.   Never did a full lap,  lost count of how many loops and eights I did.  Had to take a step when the engine quit and had to land the plane behind me.   They also learned to listen hen I would tell them to land because of static electricity.    H^^
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Bill Heher on May 29, 2012, 07:38:45 AM
I will keep subscribing, at $3 an issue it is worth it to me just for the C/L coverage. They also review stuff that I might not otherwise be exposed to.

Heck - they get at least a $1 credit an issue from me just for the American Flag and pledge to "Never Forget" on the Cover of Every Single Issue!!
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Larry Cunningham on May 29, 2012, 08:36:47 AM
Face facts. If you can't afford $37 a year for FM, maybe it is time to get out of this "expensive" hobby of ours. How long to save up for a bottle of thin CA?

FM will continue to get my support for their coverage of CL.

L.

"Everything in life depends on how that life accepts its limits." -James Baldwin
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: riley wooten on May 29, 2012, 10:30:44 AM
I have seen FM for as little as $19.95 a year through some of the internet offerings.  You might check it out...
That is sure cheap enough if it works!
rw
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: Balsa Butcher on May 29, 2012, 10:41:58 AM
I think those offers are fishing scams. Frank Fanelli has written more than once that those subscriptions offers are not authorized and will not be honored by FM. Another case of if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I just bit the bullet and subscribed for multiple years. That way at least the price won't go up for awhile. 8)
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: 50+AirYears on May 29, 2012, 10:31:18 PM
Far as I'm concerned, there are only two real model aircraft mags published in this country.  Flying Models, and Model Aviation.  After several decades, I just dropped my long-term subscription to MAN.  There are a lot of so called model airplane magazines on the market, but most of them just seem to be "The best ever" ARF RC Electric manufacturers' reviews.  I bought a couple issues of one of those mags a couple years ago, but when they had several different pictures on several different pages of a Sig RC Curtiss Jenny, and three different caption writers called it a "Sopwith Camel"?  And when they had a review of a foam RTF that was supposed to be a DeHavilland Beaver that I'd classify as Caricature Scale, they called it a highly accurate precision scale model. Don't even scan through them in the LHS anymore.
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: john e. holliday on May 30, 2012, 09:55:20 AM
I was looking thru the new  issue of Model Aviation and got to wondering,  isn't the advertisers supposed to pay for the publication of the magazine?   Back in the day the subscription rate was to pay for postage and handling, at least that is what I thought. 

By the way, am I the  only one that doesn't like the glossy pages of MA? H^^
Title: Re: FM Renewal
Post by: George on May 30, 2012, 10:13:43 AM
I think those offers are fishing scams. Frank Fanelli has written more than once that those subscriptions offers are not authorized and will not be honored by FM. Another case of if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I just bit the bullet and subscribed for multiple years. That way at least the price won't go up for awhile. 8)
 

Actually, I subscribed through one of those internet subscriptions one year and had no problem with them. Apparently, the company I was using distributes to retail magazine sales points and ships what would be extra copies to you from their bulk purchases.
 
When I found out they were not Actually Carstens, next year, and ever since, I subscribe through Carstens. After all, I want them around.

That said, perhaps there are scams also, I just happened to pick a legitimate source.

George