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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Phil Spillman on November 17, 2019, 08:32:36 PM

Title: Flying Lines
Post by: Phil Spillman on November 17, 2019, 08:32:36 PM
In recent months my customers and I have been plagued with problems of unwinding flying lines. A valued source has told me that the lines I am having trouble with haven't been properly "tempered by their manufacturer". Do any of you loyal hanger members have a source of flying lines, in bulk spools, whose lines don't try to unravel when being worked with? And if so where do you buy them?  Would really appreciate a response with my thanks in advance!


Phil Spillman
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: john e. holliday on November 17, 2019, 08:36:39 PM
In all my years of flying/playing with control line I've yet to find a reel/spool of lines that didn't try to come off the while working on them.   I use tape or cut a slice in the reel to help hold the lines a little. D>K
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: 944_Jim on November 17, 2019, 08:44:38 PM
Mr. Spillman,

I'm no help to you, but am trying to understand. By "unravel," you mean the braid is "unbraiding" into separate wires, or the rolled spools are "unwinding" from the spools?
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Robert Zambelli on November 17, 2019, 08:49:36 PM
Phil - here's a supplier.

https://www.loosco.com/products/miniature-cable/
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Howard Rush on November 17, 2019, 09:04:54 PM
http://mbsmodelsupply.com/ , not to be confused with the Arab MBS.
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: pat king on November 18, 2019, 08:49:07 AM
Marvin at MBS is a racer, he is GOOD PEOPLE! his lines are first class!

Pat
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: frank mccune on November 19, 2019, 07:17:27 AM
     Hi Phil:

      That problem has driven me to switch to “fishen line.” 

                                                                   Be well,

                                                                   Frank McCune
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: rich gorrill on November 19, 2019, 09:10:33 AM
I've been using line from MBS and never had any problem with them.

Rich
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Balsa Butcher on November 19, 2019, 11:10:04 AM
The ones in question may be those that are marketed under the name "Fly-By-Wire" Control line. They are 7 strand, stainless steel, work OK  but seem stiffer than the one Melvin sells. They also unravel every time the are cut. It's annoying and makes it harder to wrap. They are sold on E-Bay. I have used them and still have a few lines made from them prefer the lines made from the cable I get from MBS, as recommended above. Never a problem with those.  8)
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Phil Spillman on November 19, 2019, 12:42:16 PM
any Thanks to all who replied! I think that I now have a reliable source for the wires I need! To answer the question as to what sort of unravelling I am referring to, its the wires themselves which tend to un-cable themselves into separate strands; in other words they disunite themselves into separate tiny strands.

Phil Spillman
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Robert Zambelli on November 19, 2019, 01:27:04 PM
This is the best cable cutting tool I've ever used.
It does not fray the cable.

   https://www.savacable.com/cable-cutter-light-duty

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on November 19, 2019, 05:20:30 PM
I've been using lines from Brodak for a hundred years. I sometimes cut them shorter and re-wrap the ends.  Never had a probvlem with strands unraveling.
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Dan McEntee on November 19, 2019, 08:08:24 PM
   I prefer MBS line also and all my bulk line comes from them. The SIG sets I have used through the years never unraveled either.
  Type at you later,
    Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Dan Berry on November 19, 2019, 09:38:56 PM
This is the best cable cutting tool I've ever used.
It does not fray the cable.

   https://www.savacable.com/cable-cutter-light-duty

Bob Z.

The brand name is Felco. They are the cat's nuts for cutting wire.
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Tim Wescott on November 20, 2019, 12:07:22 PM
This is the best cable cutting tool I've ever used.
It does not fray the cable.

   https://www.savacable.com/cable-cutter-light-duty

Bob Z.

I use a Dremel Dangerous Disk (with all due care to not nick the lines I care about).

The brand name is Felco. They are the cat's nuts for cutting wire.

Bees knees I've heard -- that one is new to me.
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: Ken Culbertson on November 20, 2019, 01:50:45 PM
I always put a drop of slow cure CA such as JB and rub it in where I plan to cut.  Don't use the thin stuff unless you want it to run up the wire into the next room and glue the cat to the floor.  That also keeps the wire from unraveling while you are wrapping the ends.  The "Ukrane" lines which I love are really bad about this.  I have had then unwrap as much as a foot from a cut without preparation.

Ken
Title: Re: Flying Lines
Post by: dave siegler on November 20, 2019, 02:45:56 PM
So I have some wire that does that.  When I gut it, there is some residual twists in it.  If not careful It will snarl up in a big ball.  So I hold it in between my thumb and forefinger and carefully let out the twists and it is fine.  The other way is to walk it out at least 3 times before cutting it off the roll.