Painless!

[Louis Rankin]

The whole process was very quick and painless; however, I did notice someone delivering a giant seed pod at my front door.

UAS FA39LEEMWL

[Dave_Trible]

Hey Lou!

FA3ATY4T94

That's going to be a mean stencil to cut.

Dave

[Bill Little]

OK, you two, I will give you one chance before I ban you........ (LOL!!)  what are y'all talking about?? 

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

[Steve Helmick]

I'm guessing that they've gone and registered with the FAA, and those are their new identification numbers.

Ban 'em, Bill!!!!  Steve

PS: I'm not planning to do it.

[dave siegler]

yes the web site had some performance issues early on but it took 2 minutes

UAS Certificate number FA39HY9ML7

less effort than all the bitching. 

[Bill Little]

So, we ARE going to have to register C/L?? 

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

[Steve Helmick]

So, we ARE going to have to register C/L?? 

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

It doesn't look like we do...but I wouldn't bet money on it, either. If it's required to fly at our flying site, I'll register, but I'd give them an old address, phone number, and email address.  Steve

[Mark Scarborough]

not per the FAA at this point

[Jim Svitko]

There have been local newscasts about this drone registration requirement.  During the broadcasts, videos of drones are shown.  No videos of fixed wing RC aircraft or helicopters, no mention of the extent of this requirement--that is, the fact that it encompasses much more than what the general public is being told.

One station had a survey so that viewers can vote on this.  Since most are unaware of what is really going on, 51% thought registration of drones is the right thing to do.  About what I expected from an uninformed public.

[wwwarbird]

--that is, the fact that it encompasses much more than what the general public is being told.

 How shocking!

 
 Are you guys not watching the details? The AMA has recommended that we all hold off on registering.

 Even as much as I'm down on the AMA and Bob Brown right now, I still don't see any reason for going ahead with the FAA registration until the AMA gives us the final answer on whether to do so, or not. With any luck it may end up being NOT. Supposedly they're working on it for us. If I was the FAA I would be viewing any new registration as us modelers "caving in" on the whole issue before the AMA has their chance at straightening things out. Registering before then could be very harmful to our cause.

[Mike Griffin]

Why would you register at this point when even AMA said to hold off?   

Mike

[Dave_Trible]

I think it obvious that this train already left the station and the AMA was left behind.  They may be able to get a favorable clarification about CL,  but the die is cast for anything with RF control.  In my case I have RF equipment that I 'could' use for certain functions on my CL stunt ships and some use these devises for CL scale.  Also I may dabble with free flight stuff with limited radio control if just for a dethermalizer.  One can stand in defiance if they wish but I don't known who ( that matters) would pay any attention.  I'm not 'for' this other than it shows that the FAA does understand this is a serious matter.  I also think my objection would be a fart in the wind.  So my choice was to just get on with it.  I'll use my efforts to replace elected AMA officials  who have spared no effort to become joined at the hip with the drone culture that has brought this upon us all- and are yet still trying to bind us together with a group better suited to IRCHA.  I guess they are smarter.

Dave

[Phillip Kenney]

I like way the new id numbers just roll off the tongue!

AMA 74321

[wwwarbird]

I think it obvious that this train already left the station and the AMA was left behind.  They may be able to get a favorable clarification about CL,  but the die is cast for anything with RF control. 

Dave

 I won't argue any of that but it's the C/L clarification that I guess I'm hoping for, as should everyone on this forum. I do realize that it's a very small chance but I'm going to wait for all the dust to settle and see how good the AMA actually is, or isn't.

[dave siegler]

How shocking!

 
 Are you guys not watching the details? The AMA has recommended that we all hold off on registering.

 Even as much as I'm down on the AMA and Bob Brown right now, I still don't see any reason for going ahead with the FAA registration until the AMA gives us the final answer on whether to do so, or not. With any luck it may end up being NOT. Supposedly they're working on it for us. If I was the FAA I would be viewing any new registration as us modelers "caving in" on the whole issue before the AMA has their chance at straightening things out. Registering before then could be very harmful to our cause.

I kind of disagree, the best way to kill this thing may be to comply COMPLETELY.  Call the tower when you fly, even if you don't have to.  Kill the system with compliance.  
Bury them with requests.  Everything by the book.  I guarantee they don't have process and procedures in place to deal with it.  

I have no interest to get in being used as leverage in an an AMA vs FAA discussion.  The FAA will win every time.  The AMA is irrelevant to the FAA now.    

AMA makes suggestions, FAA makes essentially laws and can back them up if they want to.  

I fly a little RC and hoped to get a low number, but it looks like there is some kind of code in the numbering system.  

[wwwarbird]

I kind of disagree, the best way to kill this thing may be to comply COMPLETELY.  Call the tower when you fly, even if you don't have to.  Kill the system with compliance.  
Bury them with requests.  Everything by the book.  I guarantee they don't have process and procedures in place to deal with it.  

I have no interest to get in being used as leverage in an an AMA vs FAA discussion.  The FAA will win every time.  The AMA is irrelevant to the FAA now.    

AMA makes suggestions, FAA makes essentially laws and can back them up if they want to.  

 Yep, good points there too Dave. It's all impossible to really guess at this point though, and it seems everyone has their own way of looking at this thing. There is the likely problem that the whole thing is virtually unenforceable too, but I don't expect that to be a consideration on their part at all. Hell, they would have to utilize common sense to realize that. We've seen how well the Fed's system works with guns, it doesn't. For now, I'm just waiting it all out.

[Louis Rankin]

Yes, I agree.  The train has left the station, and the horse has left the barn.  To the FAA, the AMA is just an annoying insect that in time will be swatted.  The AMA does not have the deep pockets that it takes to fight something like this.  I fly R/C and saw no harm or foul in registering early.  Thought I would get a low number, but not a chance.  Expect everyone will get a 10 character alphanumeric registration.  

Our club President and I will be meeting with the reps of of the two local airports near us.  We are inside of their Air Traffic Areas.  Technically we are supposed to inform them every time a model goes up.  We intend to develop a Memoradum of Understanding with them that outlines our activities.

Let's face it.  We are members of the AMA for the lousy insurance and mediocre magazine.  To tell the truth, I would not be a member if our club's by laws did not require it.  I do hope I am wrong, but at this point I really don't think there is much that the AMA can do.  The AMA flying site and museum are awesome, other than that I am no longer impressed.

I became a member of the AMA at the zenith of the golden age of model aviation.  All of my old grey headed model buddies are now in their 70s and 80s.  These men were my boyhood hero's and were plastered all over the pages of the AMA magazine.  How things were then are not the way they are now.  Times have changed and interests have evolved.