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Title: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Paul Raley on June 09, 2025, 03:35:58 PM
Is it possible to launch a single wheel Flite Streak from grass with a stooge?  Forty years ago we always hand launched our Flite Streaks.  I am thinking that some bolt on aluminum two wheel landing gear may be a better option for me now since I mostly fly alone.  I have had a Flite Streak ARF kit sitting around for years now but reading old posts about the magic combination of this with the OS 20 FP has me interested in putting in together.  TIA
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Colin McRae on June 09, 2025, 04:08:07 PM
Is it possible to launch a single wheel Flite Streak from grass with a stooge?  Forty years ago we always hand launched our Flite Streaks.  I am thinking that some bolt on aluminum two wheel landing gear may be a better option for me now since I mostly fly alone.  I have had a Flite Streak ARF kit sitting around for years now but reading old posts about the magic combination of this with the OS 20 FP has me interested in putting in together.  TIA

I've never liked a single center wheel design. Always tore up the outer wing tip covering or worse on simple landings.

Brodak sells both aluminum and wire gear for profile models. Or you can make your own using 1/8" music wire.
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Paul Raley on June 09, 2025, 04:59:52 PM
I've never liked a single center wheel design. Always tore up the outer wing tip covering or worse on simple landings.

Brodak sells both aluminum and wire gear for profile models. Or you can make your own using 1/8" music wire.

Thanks Colin!
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: dave siegler on June 09, 2025, 07:09:09 PM
I used the single wheel for years.  I put a paper towel roll under the inboard wing and step back once it starts moving.  I have had great luck with the sinegl wheel gear on rough crassy fields

 
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Paul Raley on June 10, 2025, 06:10:46 AM
I used the single wheel for years.  I put a paper towel roll under the inboard wing and step back once it starts moving.  I have had great luck with the sinegl wheel gear on rough crassy fields

 
Thanks Dave!  That is good to know.  So just put an empty (?) paper towel roll under the outside wing tip?  Is the roll parallel to the fuselage? 
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: jerry v on June 10, 2025, 07:31:12 AM
Single wheel, full up elevator, release stooge, step back, and even T-square will go!

Jerry
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Colin McRae on June 10, 2025, 08:02:39 AM
I also fly alone quite a bit of the time.

2-wheel gear on my Streak. Plus, I have similar gear on both a Brodak Shark 402 and SIG Skyray 35, both kits originally designed for a single center wheel.

Just use 2 wheels and then don't worry about it. There are plenty of other things to worry about. Don't add landing gear to the list. :)
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Joseph Lijoi on June 10, 2025, 08:19:58 AM
Is it possible to launch a single wheel Flite Streak from grass with a stooge?  Forty years ago we always hand launched our Flite Streaks.  I am thinking that some bolt on aluminum two wheel landing gear may be a better option for me now since I mostly fly alone.  I have had a Flite Streak ARF kit sitting around for years now but reading old posts about the magic combination of this with the OS 20 FP has me interested in putting in together.  TIA

I have never messed with a single wheel and a stooge. It didn't seem reliable. I have used the landing gear from the Brodak 38 Special. It's a prefect fit. It is expensive though. 


https://brodak.com/control-line-parts/landing-gear-1/38-special-landing-gear.html
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Colin McRae on June 10, 2025, 09:19:59 AM
I have never messed with a single wheel and a stooge. It didn't seem reliable. I have used the landing gear from the Brodak 38 Special. It's a prefect fit. It is expensive though. 


https://brodak.com/control-line-parts/landing-gear-1/38-special-landing-gear.html

That's a nice one.

Brodak also makes a more generic one for any profile model that uses 2 mounting bolts. (Not sure why it is a little more expensive.)

https://brodak.com/control-line-parts/landing-gear-1/landing-gear/aluminum-landing-gear/2-piece-landing-gear-for-profile-planes.html
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Ken Culbertson on June 10, 2025, 10:10:31 AM
That's a nice one.

Brodak also makes a more generic one for any profile model that uses 2 mounting bolts. (Not sure why it is a little more expensive.)

https://brodak.com/control-line-parts/landing-gear-1/landing-gear/aluminum-landing-gear/2-piece-landing-gear-for-profile-planes.html

Wow, does that price include shipping, installation and training?  ~^

Ken
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: john e. holliday on June 10, 2025, 10:25:23 AM
I have used single wheel gear on many planes.  I usually put shop towel or rag on out board wing tip so it will slide off when plane moves.  Remember to step back as you release the stooge.  If grass is too rough I use a strip of carpet.  It takes thought and patience to do it successfully. D>K
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: dave siegler on June 10, 2025, 10:33:50 AM
Thanks Dave!  That is good to know.  So just put an empty (?) paper towel roll under the outside wing tip?  Is the roll parallel to the fuselage?

No put a full roll under the inboard wing to keep it up for the first 2 feet.  then step back.
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Colin McRae on June 10, 2025, 10:39:25 AM
I have used single wheel gear on many planes.  I usually put shop towel or rag on out board wing tip so it will slide off when plane moves.  Remember to step back as you release the stooge.  If grass is too rough I use a strip of carpet.  It takes thought and patience to do it successfully. D>K

Let's not all forget that planes also need to land.

The minor wing tip damage to my past single wheel models occurred on the landing when the outer wing tip eventually drops and drags. Takeoffs were fine.
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Paul Raley on June 10, 2025, 11:18:15 AM
No put a full roll under the inboard wing to keep it up for the first 2 feet.  then step back.
Ah...I understand.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Ken Culbertson on June 10, 2025, 11:53:42 AM
That would help.  The biggest problem over grass letting the lines hit the grass and pull the nose in before you get tension.  That is true of most everything but with the All American it is doubly important.  Backing up and back like you were avoiding a vortex is all it takes.  We mostly hand launched everything back then.  It works for that too.

I am guessing back in the day when this plane was king you got originality points for takeoff!  I was 16 and I learned the difference between walking around a circle with a plane on a string and *FLYING* on the AA.  It will always have a place in my memories.

Ken
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Joseph Lijoi on June 11, 2025, 08:01:29 AM
That's a nice one.

Brodak also makes a more generic one for any profile model that uses 2 mounting bolts. (Not sure why it is a little more expensive.)

https://brodak.com/control-line-parts/landing-gear-1/landing-gear/aluminum-landing-gear/2-piece-landing-gear-for-profile-planes.html

The landing gear that you suggest is somewhat bigger than the one used on the 38 Special. I have them both. The one that you suggest is good. it seems intended for Twister sized profiles and up. The 38 Special gear is smaller and better proportioned to a Flite Streak.
Title: Re: Flite Streak Stooge Launch?
Post by: Dave_Trible on June 11, 2025, 08:22:41 AM
Usually a Flite Streak will hop off the ground in about six inches- or the first clump of grass it hits.   Just hold your handle up about head high to launch and keep the lines off the ground.   The other suggestions about laying something on the outboard wing or to prop up the inboard wing are good.    Once it starts moving you shouldn't have any problems.   Be sure the wind is at your back.  With the engine,  tank and tip weight all outboard the airplane should want to naturally fall outward anyway.  If it doesn't then the wheel needs to be placed a bit more inboard.   The idea of the single wheel was to save weight and drag.   To some extent adding more stuff hanging from the bottom will change the vertical CG.   If you are using a muffler that too aggravates  that situation.   In flying this might cause the airplane to go lighter on the lines for inside loops.   

Dave