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Title: First Vector
Post by: Paul Taylor on February 23, 2010, 06:56:47 PM
Anyone have a picture of the very first Vector?
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: RandySmith on February 23, 2010, 09:03:23 PM
Anyone have a picture of the very first Vector?

Hi Paul

The first one is not scanned but I should be able to find several others

Randy

This is Dondi Garrison he won several NATs championships with the 40 Vector Smith AT 36 powered

The second Picture is a full sized Vectors built in the late 80s powered by Royal 45. It was built by Lanny Castleberry, flew very well.
Dale Barry and Jim Rettick did very well at the NATs with theirs  also
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Jim Pollock on February 23, 2010, 09:07:43 PM
Nope,

That's not the very first Vector.  Tom Dixon has it on his plans list and I have a copy of it.  The very first Vector was powered with something like on of those old powerhouse .40's  and had a span about 57" or so.  It was a lot bigger plane than the current Vector .40.  Ask Randy Smith, I'm sure he remembers it.  It also had a removable wing!

Jim Pollock,  I guess I'll have to look up my plans but they were circa 1989 or so.
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Jim Pollock on February 23, 2010, 09:17:04 PM
Got the plans out.

It also has a forward jet style canopy.  Randy, remember this one.  The plans Tom drew say that you designed it and he modified it for the removable wing.  It won a contest in Fla. in Nov 89 I think.

Jim Pollock    H^^
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: RandySmith on February 23, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
Tom Dixon had nothing to do with the Vector except that he built and competed with one, he did very well with it too.
Tom just took it upon himself to figure that since he built my plane ,and made it with a take off wing ,he could draw it up and sell the plans

Dale Barry , Carl Raichle , Randy Smith, Ron Farmer ,Jim Rettick and many more people built them back when I first designed it. They used everything from ST 46s to HP 40s  to Royal and OS 40 and 45s.

Here is a nice 40 size that Steve  built
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Brett Buck on February 23, 2010, 09:26:46 PM
Tom Dixon had nothing to do with the Vector except that he built and competed with one, he did very well with it too.
Tom just took it upon himself to figure that since he built my plane ,and made it with a take off wing ,he could draw it up and sell the plans

   I saw Star Wars, therefore I own 20th Century Fox.

    Brett
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: RandySmith on February 23, 2010, 09:27:13 PM
Got the plans out.

It also has a forward jet style canopy.  Randy, remember this one.  The plans Tom drew say that you designed it and he modified it for the removable wing.  It won a contest in Fla. in Nov 89 I think.

Jim Pollock    H^^


Hi Jim

Yep I remember Tom's Vector, He used a Royal\Magnum  OS clone 40 or 45 in it, He later ran it with a CF tuned pipe.
His was silver  and had orange trim.


I am sure that many people can post pictures of the Vectors they have built, It is great to see them, I really enjoy seeing people having fun with the ship

Randy
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Jim Pollock on February 23, 2010, 09:35:21 PM
Randy,

That version was the first Vector wasn't it??
Hey Brett,  I used to carouse around Modesto with George, doesn't that make me part owner of Lucas Enterprises??

Jim Pollock   H^^
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: RandySmith on February 23, 2010, 09:42:42 PM
Randy,

That version was the first Vector wasn't it??
Hey Brett,  I used to carouse around Modesto with George, doesn't that make me part owner of Lucas Enterprises??

Jim Pollock   H^^

Hi Jim

The first version was Eliptical, The first ones you see here were 630 to 640 sq inches, and 57 or so wing span. The later 40 sized ones I drew up for smaller engines to make a Nobler sized airplane, It was this version that Curt Contrada and myself worked with John Brodak on To make the Vector 40 kit..and later the ARC , ARF.
It is also the same one that earlier Dondi Garrison built flew and won a ton of NATs hardware with, Then along came Rob Gruber
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Jim Pollock on February 23, 2010, 10:10:13 PM
Hmmmm,

Randy is the Eliptical version N-30 Eligible??

Jim Pollock....... H^^
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: RandySmith on February 23, 2010, 10:47:56 PM
Hmmmm,

Randy is the Eliptical version N-30 Eligible??

Jim Pollock....... H^^

No Not yet but  there are many SV ships that are from 35 to 65 sized, 559 sq in ,  725 sq ,  700 sq  , and  675 sq in

The 700 sq in  "StuntCraft" i built and flew in the 70s and early 80s is near identical to the SV-11 it just has a 70s Jet look
Randy
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: EddyR on February 24, 2010, 10:31:24 AM
Here is one that predates the Vector. Randy's Vigilante. I changed the top block and rudder. The Stuntcraft wing is high aspect ratio on this design. Carl Raichel cut the foam wing for me. Bill Rich flew these for two years. Plane looks much smaller than Bills with out the rack back tips.
  Ed
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Brett Buck on February 25, 2010, 10:09:19 PM
I used to carouse around Modesto with George, doesn't that make me part owner of Lucas Enterprises??

   I think his ex-wife beat you to it!

     Brett
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Jim Pollock on February 26, 2010, 05:53:28 PM
Awww  - - Shucks!

Jim Pollock  HB~>
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Paul Taylor on February 26, 2010, 06:02:30 PM
Pictures of Vector's

Post'em if you got'em
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Dwayne on February 26, 2010, 08:40:27 PM
Pictures of Vector's

Post'em if you got'em

Ok why not.  ;D n~
Here's one I bashed to look like a jet.
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Balsa Butcher on February 26, 2010, 09:14:40 PM
Well, here's a .40 sized Vector. Modified Brodak kit. Power an FP 40 8)
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Paul Taylor on February 27, 2010, 02:35:02 PM
Only 7 Vectors out there? Come on, there has to be a few more out there. Z@@ZZZ
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: John Witt on February 27, 2010, 03:25:47 PM
Here's my electric one. I like it a lot. No paint trim in this shot. 48 oz with Turnigy motor and Zippy 4S2650 battery.

John W
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Dick Pacini on February 27, 2010, 06:00:33 PM
Beautiful plane, John.  Is that dope or plastic?
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: John Witt on February 27, 2010, 07:46:12 PM
Thanks, Dick. Looks better in the picture than it is. It's Ultrakote on wings and stab and Lustrekote primer and paint on the wood.

John W
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: John Miller on February 27, 2010, 07:46:37 PM
I almost hesitate to post this picture of my Vector 40 hanging on the wall. The engine is out of it and it hangs, semi-retired, until I fix the elevator hinges that were broken in an inverted low angled meeting with the grass.

Covered with sanding dust, it barely shows the sparkle it once had. It's monokote over silkspan, one of my favorite techniques with plastic coverings.

I very nice flying ship, that always, well, almost, went where it was pointed.
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: john e. holliday on February 28, 2010, 07:55:35 AM
My Vector ARC is still in the box.  It is such great construction and light, I hate to mess it up. H^^
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Derek Barry on March 01, 2010, 07:36:59 AM
Here is Dad's Vector that Randy was talking about. The original was red and then he refinished it green. The last photo is of my Vectra, my first piped plane.
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: john e. holliday on March 01, 2010, 05:57:36 PM
Man you have bulked up a little.  Has your dad always had the long hair?  Me I wish I had some hair.   LL~ LL~
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Wynn Robins on March 01, 2010, 07:07:20 PM
ok Paul - here are some of mine - yes, even the Talon started life as a vector - has the wing and same numbers
Title: Re: First Vector
Post by: Peter Ferguson on March 01, 2010, 11:53:00 PM
Heres mine.