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Online Tim Just

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First impressions from a new guy
« on: January 29, 2019, 12:10:32 PM »

The 69th SOUTHWEST REGIONALS CONTROL LINE CONTEST

Last March my old hobby and I parted ways, and I needed something new fill my free time. Flying a control-line, Stunt contest has always been on my “to do list”. As I have gotten a little older, maybe I should say a little more experienced, it has been moved to my “bucket list”. It was time to get busy.  I had been aware of the event and had enjoyed watching many stunt flights at Mile Square park in Fountain Valley where I grew up. At the time I was flying RC pattern. Control line and free flight were flown on an adjacent runway to the radio control planes. In 1976, my Schwinn 10 speed took me past Bob Whitley’s house, during my daily paper route. Bob’s garage door was often open while he created his aeronautical masterpieces. It is very likely my visits interrupted his progress, but he let me hang out anyway.

Fast forward four decades and it was January 26, 2019.
I arrived in Tucson that Saturday afternoon after the days competition was complete. I did manage one practice flight but the winds were beyond my personal limits; so I stopped. On Sunday morning, the weather was perfect. After the briefing, I prepared my equipment at the northern circle. The only thing between me and my first contest flight was the pull test. “This is going to be tricky”, I thought to myself. “It’s going to take both hands to hold the model. How do I plug my ears?” The bellcrank was still close to centerline when complete and so all is well. I won’t go into too much detail about my first flight, but will admit, in all the excitement, I forgot how to count. This led to my timer getting done a little ahead of me. Right in the middle of my four leaf clover, to be precise. After I landed, I learned about pattern points. I didn’t receive any, but I now know what they are. Someone asked how I was able  to run out of time on an electric? I pretended not to hear them. Striving to only make new mistakes, thirty seconds was added to my timer between flights. The second flight went much better. What a great feeling to get through it all. The best part, everyone I met was so helpful and friendly. Why had I waited so long to do this!

After the trophies were handed out, Brett Buck and David Fitzgerald offered a critique session. I, along with four or five others, took advantage of their gracious offer. The group was split in half. Brett drew the short straw and worked with me. As I anxiously awaited my turn, it was fun and insightful to watch the other pilots fly and listen to their debriefs. Then it was my turn. After my flight, Brett broke the maneuvers down and concentrated on the most egregious errors. The gist of the conversation was that the bottoms were too high and the sizes were too small. The hourglass was/is the most frustrating for me. In an event that is won or lost by the smallest of errors, I was off by 40 degrees! Only one and a half points separate first and second place in the expert category. This is going to take some serious work. Okay, fresh battery, fly again. Knowing what I wanted to do is one thing, communicating it to my airplane is another. My airplane is a slow learner; a very slow learner.  On the third flight Brett flew my Vector. My airplane had no problem listening to him. How can this be? Allowing him to fly my airplane was a huge error in judgment, so many excuses I can now never use! Brett did recommend a few trim changes between flights.  My turn again. This time Brett suggested that I fly each figure like I would draw it on a chalk board. This advice did nothing to improve my hourglass. In Brett’s defense, he had no way of knowing the last time I had tried to draw something, it didn’t even make it up on my mother’s refrigerator. While he was standing seventy feet away, his facial expression told me we still had work to do. Or... maybe it was him telling me to not do any more of those. An obvious disadvantage of electric is you can hear the coach from the center of the circle. I will be upgrading my equipment to something with a pipe to solve that! Out of time, batteries and bandwidth, I left with my hourglass half full but my personal fun meter pegged.

I must again say thank you to all that put on this event. Many were there just volunteering so others could compete. How cool is that? Brett, I am sure your good deed helping a new guy will add at least two points to the karma bank.

Tim
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Offline Gary Dowler

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Re: First impressions from a new guy
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 02:51:55 PM »
Excellent story!  Thank you for posting that. I am hopeful of my first contest experience this May in Roseburg. I have a lot to do before then, but I'm certain that my showing up will guarantee some more deserving fellow a chance to finish ahread of last......lol

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Online Tim Wescott

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Re: First impressions from a new guy
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2019, 04:03:55 PM »
... The gist of the conversation was the bottoms were too high and the sizes were too small ...

Only fly your bottoms lower if you're not having too many close brushes with the ground.  One of the best bits of advise that I got (and why it had to be told to me, I don't know), was to go ahead and fly 10 foot bottoms until I was consistently pulling out higher than four feet, then lower my bottoms by a foot.  Repeat as necessary until your bottoms are at five feet.  This meant that my maneuvers tended to be too high, but my airplanes tended to last for long enough that I could learn on them.

The interesting part of this, aside from fewer crashes, is that around the time I was contemplating moving from Advanced to Expert, I overshot.  My bottoms were at about three feet (fun fun!), and my close calls were about six inches off the pavement.  I had to work for a couple of months to get my bottoms up to where they belonged.
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Re: First impressions from a new guy
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2019, 09:00:56 PM »
Well at least you tried and got some help/advice.   Did you get to bug Bob W. by the way.   I know I bugged him one year after VSC when we made the trip back out to Tuscon for the wife's Aunt Betty's birthday surprise.   
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Re: First impressions from a new guy
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2019, 10:29:43 AM »
Well at least you tried and got some help/advice. 


  "At least you tried"? Really?  Tim came to his first contest ever, made some friends, put in two competition flights for the first time ever, got a 460something in Intermediate, had a working airplane, and then got coaching (and lengthy discussion of other topics ) with a World Champion and multi-time national champion, some other slug who also was present, had a great day, and you say "at least you tried"?

    Tim has just the right attitude to succeed in this event, he managed to get the airplane working very well by himself with minimal advice, and had a few eminently-soluble problems (some of which are common bordering on universal) and went away happy  - and with a 1st place plaque. He would beat the majority of the readers here in a contest from the moment he showed up.   There was nothing negative about it, it was a great day, it was a lot more than just "well, at least you tried".

     Brett

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Re: First impressions from a new guy
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2019, 03:40:35 PM »
It was great to meet Tim at the South West Regionals.  Hope to see him at west coast events in the future. 

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Re: First impressions from a new guy
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2019, 07:19:45 PM »
Congrats Tim and welcome to Control Line Stunt. Have fun!! :)!
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Re: First impressions from a new guy
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2019, 08:18:25 PM »

 Great story Tim, keep 'em coming!  ;D
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Re: First impressions from a new guy
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2019, 10:10:35 PM »
I once asked Jim Armor to critique my pattern. After the flight, he commented:

“When you have your sizes, shapes, bottoms and intersections, you’l have something.” Sadly, I still don’t.

Unfortunatly, now as a judge, it is obvious.   HB~>

Bill Heyworth once commented that he had never before seen a sixteen point loop.

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