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Title: Finished Tbolt updated (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on November 30, 2006, 02:51:15 PM
Well its ready to fly but the weather has a different idea. St.Louis is getting snow right now as I type and set for the biggest winter Strom in years. Enough about the weather.

The airplane came out very nice. I did not have to add or subtract weight for balance. How ever I did sacrifice a once and a half for the extra finish I got. But I think it's worth it.

Now its time to clean this mess up and start a new project. I have enough time to build a couple more before the next NATS.
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! (photo's)
Post by: Wynn Robins on November 30, 2006, 02:54:55 PM
that is phenominal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! (photo's)
Post by: Dwayne on November 30, 2006, 03:56:50 PM
Man that's sweet  AP^  #^ Now Sparky have you ever done one with a full weathering finish? Complete with patched bullit holes and such?  Maybe pick one of an actual plane and pilot complete with it's history and what theater it fought in. Now that would be sweet! Just a thought.
Dwayne
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Crist Rigotti on November 30, 2006, 04:37:42 PM
Bob,
Very nice job!  What did the weight come out too? I do like the way you dealt with the AMA numbers.
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on November 30, 2006, 04:49:43 PM
Only a half ounce lighter than number 2. I sure was hoping for more but it wasn't in the cards.
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: john e. holliday on November 30, 2006, 05:48:47 PM
After the remark about the numbers, I had to go back and take another look.  It looks terrific.  If it flies as well as it looks, you should have the Walker sitting on your mantel.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Gordon Tarbell on November 30, 2006, 06:35:53 PM
I would love to see you show up to one of the meets this coming year out hear at Mavis Henson field in Woodland CA. You could travel around the country barnstorming different contests. Kind of like the 70's when Funny cars would match race to make extra money . Oh well it was a thought.  That T-Bolt looks Great!
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Roger Vizioli on November 30, 2006, 06:50:10 PM
Robert,
Fantastic job!
Hope to see it someday.
Roger
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Harleyman on November 30, 2006, 07:10:29 PM
Looks super nice Bob.  Can I have it?   
I'll trade you my Banshee for it.    :)!
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Phil Coopy on November 30, 2006, 07:41:46 PM
Outstanding Sparky...if you want I'll do the maiden for you ;D

Phil
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Crist Rigotti on November 30, 2006, 08:34:22 PM
Bob,
How much did #2 weigh?
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on November 30, 2006, 08:38:27 PM
Too much! But it flew good.
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Vincent Judd on November 30, 2006, 08:51:06 PM
Fantastic job, what a beautiful airplane.  You should be very proud.  

I've been waiting to introduce myself, I guess now is as good a time as ever.  I've just joined the stunthanger membership and really have enjoyed reading through some of the threads.  You guys are a lot of fun.

Myself: Retired, 60, former C/L stunt flyer from the 70's, 80's and early 90's.  Used to fly with the NE Philly guys before they became the Philly Flyers, starting out back in the 70's.  Went to a lot of the local contests back in the day....Edison, Lincoln Park, can't remember the names of the others, but there were quite a few.  Quit flying after attending the Nats in 1990.  Too many family responsibilites with two young sons.  Didn't have the time to build or practice.

Learned to fly R/C after I retired, but never lost my love for C/L and recently purchased a Brodak Cardinal ARF for one of my trusty old ST 46's.  Have been having fun with it lately and starting to get that old feeling back again.   I also love to play golf, and I have a drag car that I race on the weekends.  Yes, retirement is sweet.

Anyway, two thumbs up on the web site, it's a pleasure.  I'll try not to lurk, but I don't have much pertinent information to help out with since I've been out of it for so long.  There are some interesting crossover things that pertain to both C/L and R/C, I may interject some comments here and there if I think I can help someone, or maybe just give a rookie's viewpoint on something.  For example, I fly a lot of 4 stroke R/C stuff, mainly Saitos.  I have a 72, an 82 and a 100 in various planes.  I fly a style referred to as 3D, which is a lot of high alpha stuff, hanging the plane on the prop, hovering, that kind of stuff.  Tons of fun, especially for this old man.  

Anyway, nice to meet you guys.

Vince
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on November 30, 2006, 09:22:20 PM
Well Vince glad to see you found your way home. Welcome!
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Bill Gruby on December 01, 2006, 05:33:29 AM
Robert;

That is truly an awesome achievment. In the threads you made it look like a walk in the park. Prey tell where did you learn to do the ink lines?

Bill Gruby   #^ #^ #^
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 01, 2006, 05:38:13 AM
Robert;

That is truly an awesome achievment. In the threads you made it look like a walk in the park. Prey tell where did you learn to do the ink lines?

Bill Gruby   #^ #^ #^

Bill I am a self taught everything! Motorcycles,Computers,Spanish, Airplanes. I just asked allot of dumb questions as a kid and sometimes still do.
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: mark eisenhut on December 01, 2006, 05:42:50 AM
that is one pretty plane and man you must have a ton of time in it approximately how many hours ? if some one was to give me a plane like that, because there is no way that i have them skills , all thumbs i would be afraid to fly it  and probably cry if any thing happened to it. so about how many hours?
thank you
mark eisenhut
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 01, 2006, 05:51:35 AM
Billy Werwage says about 400 hrs per plane. I don't think it takes me that long so I will say 250.
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Warren Wagner on December 01, 2006, 08:31:21 AM
Bob,

Superb job, as usual.   Always impressed with not only the quality of your work, but also the rate that you build.    If you could only 'bottle that up and sell it', I would take a case.

Would you explain how you mask the narrow (eighth inch) black stripes adjacent to the yellow stripes?

Thanks in advance.

Warren Wagner
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 01, 2006, 08:37:50 AM
Warren it's called back masking. Not hard to do at all. First tape the finished size of the stripes including the pinstripe. Then paint the whole thing the color of the pinstripe. After it drys tape the pinstripe off 1/8 in this case. Just butt the tape up to the outside of the outer stripe. Make sure you have no gaps between the inner and outer stripe. I re-tape with a second piece to make sure. Then spray the inner color. Just as it sets up (timing is important here) pull all the tape off and wallah you have a yellow stripe with a black pinstripe around it. No Big deal.
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Jim Pollock on December 01, 2006, 11:35:22 AM
Robert,

Great Job,  that ought to make Billy a little jealous!

Bet it flys great with the .75 too..

Jim Pollock   :o
Title: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 01, 2006, 03:41:00 PM
Here is the last of the indoor shots after rubbing it out. When the sun comes out I will take some more.
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Warren Wagner on December 01, 2006, 05:23:41 PM
Bob,

It looks spectacular from every angle.

Question about the color of your ink lines, which are superb.   At first glance, they appear to be black, but I noticed in the third photo where an ink line crosses both black and white checkers, that the line is still visible over the black regions, so of course the ink is not black.

What color ink lines did you use?   I assume they must be a dark grey.

Cheers.

Warren Wagner
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Harry Rice on December 01, 2006, 05:28:13 PM
Robert,

Could you please stop these posts?

It is all very disheartening seeing what you do - how can anyone (i.e. Me!) hope to make anything approaching this?

It's all a bit of af a p*** off!

Great work though!!!!!!!!!! If only..............

Cheers

(Envious) Harry
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 01, 2006, 05:28:55 PM
That  is the cowl separation line. Trick huh?
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 01, 2006, 05:30:59 PM
Robert,

Could you please stop these posts?

It is all very disheartening seeing what you do - how can anyone (i.e. Me!) hope to make anything approaching this?

It's all a bit of af a p*** off!

Great work though!!!!!!!!!! If only..............

Cheers

(Envious) Harry

Just ask questions and I'll answerer them. Practice makes perfect! Also remember I have built hundreds of these planes.
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: minnesotamodeler on December 01, 2006, 07:01:18 PM
That  is the cowl separation line. Trick huh?

Now that's cool...the old engineer's trick:  "If you can't fix it, feature it."  If you can't hide it, use it.  Very nice.

--Ray
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Bill Little on December 01, 2006, 11:04:18 PM
Listen carefully, Commander-In- Chief!  You have to do something to those bare wire LG.  Believe me, you HAVE to do something to those.  Vacuform a set of the Robart LG covers or SOMETHING!

Bill <><
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Richard Grogan on December 01, 2006, 11:16:46 PM
Listen carefully, Commander-In- Chief!  You have to do something to those bare wire LG.  Believe me, you HAVE to do something to those.  Vacuform a set of the Robart LG covers or SOMETHING!

Bill <><
He's done!  HB~>  I tried to talk him into it in the chat room tonite, but nothing doin'!!  HB~>

Its all it needs to get it up front row, and wont add any weight to boot...sighhh


 SH^
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Bill Adair on December 02, 2006, 04:17:48 PM
Bob,

WOW!

If I could build and finish models as beautifully as you do, I probably wouldn't.  :(

I'd be terribly afraid to fly anything that gorgeous!   HB~>

Congratulations on an outstanding airplane!  j1

Bill Adair

Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Larry Cunningham on December 02, 2006, 05:55:03 PM
What a grand model, Robert!

I admire your work, you are a true master craftsman.

L.

"Men heap together the mistakes of their lives, and create a monster they call Destiny." -John Oliver Hobbes
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Bill Little on December 02, 2006, 06:50:29 PM
He's done!  HB~>  I tried to talk him into it in the chat room tonite, but nothing doin'!!  HB~>

Its all it needs to get it up front row, and wont add any weight to boot...sighhh


 SH^

Unfortunately, I would really hate to see that plane NOT get 20 points at appearance judging.  Lack of LG detail after all the other stuff will be a killer when it's judged.  After seeing all the detail, it looks "unfinished"!  If it didn't look so OUTSTANDING I would agree, don't bother, but I know he has a vacuform machine, and to vacuform a set of Robart gear covers and finish them *MIGHT* add a tenth of an ounce.  I'm just going on the visual impact of a great, no I should say magnificent, building and finishing job, I hate to see what could (and WILL) be a potential problem.   There is way too much detail added to NOT do the LG.  Remember, you heard it here............

Bill <><
Title: Re: Some interesting shots Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 02, 2006, 09:05:46 PM
Unfortunately, I would really hate to see that plane NOT get 20 points at appearance judging.  Lack of LG detail after all the other stuff will be a killer when it's judged.  After seeing all the detail, it looks "unfinished"!  If it didn't look so OUTSTANDING I would agree, don't bother, but I know he has a vacuform machine, and to vacuform a set of Robart gear covers and finish them *MIGHT* add a tenth of an ounce.  I'm just going on the visual impact of a great, no I should say magnificent, building and finishing job, I hate to see what could (and WILL) be a potential problem.   There is way too much detail added to NOT do the LG.  Remember, you heard it here............

Bill <><

I am just imatating the master, what does Billy's gear look like? HMMM Wire right? This is not a scale semi stunt plane , its a semi scale stunt plane.
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Martin Quartim on December 02, 2006, 10:03:31 PM

Well done Sparky,

did you have custom made the wheels with lite foam? or are these of the shelf?


come fly in Brazil...weahter is great and beer is cold!

Martin
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 02, 2006, 11:13:44 PM
Well done Sparky,

did you have custom made the wheels with lite foam? or are these of the shelf?


come fly in Brazil...weahter is great and beer is cold!

Martin

The wheels are Dubro 2.75
Title: Re: All dressed up and nowhere to go! Finished Tbolt (photo's)
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on December 03, 2006, 11:56:40 AM
Vince..."Anyway, nice to meet you guys.

Vince"

I could never figure out why people are ashamed of their names.. since I used to be a GSCBr, I would love to know who you are... and don't forget that your real name would make you eligible for the monthly drawing.


Robert, 
The '47 is beautiful! Now that we have got you adding the cockpit details.. I guess next is is Bill's wish for the Landing Gear! But.. it still worth 20 points!
 
Title: Re: Finished Tbolt updated (photo's)
Post by: RC Storick on December 03, 2006, 02:00:50 PM
First thread photo update
Title: Re: Finished Tbolt updated (photo's)
Post by: Randy Powell on December 04, 2006, 01:08:20 PM
At the risk on increasing your hat size, that is a very nice effort, Robert. I think it's the best looking one of the fleet. Hope it does well for you.