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Title: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 20, 2009, 01:24:28 PM
Everytime I've mowed....it rained! This time I didn't mow! LL~ My Helper (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow001.jpg) (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow004.jpg) (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow006.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 20, 2009, 01:31:45 PM
Upside down landing (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow011.jpg) Restart: (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow016.jpg) (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow026.jpg) (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow032.jpg) (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow039.jpg) (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/denarky/Clownfirstflightyellow040.jpg)
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 20, 2009, 01:34:56 PM
As you can tell...my helper(s) aren't to good at moving objects. And....they have a crappy camera....that the date hasn't even been set! But what the heck....they got a cheap pilot that ought to buy a better camera! :##
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 20, 2009, 01:40:33 PM
Summary of my first flight with the plane: Flies very fast! Very heavy on the lines! Engine quits at inverted flight! Flight characteristics are good, quick response[jerky]! Handles the wind very well. Next flight I'll lean it out and try inverted and loops again! Note: grass needs mowing next time!! LL~
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: Russell Shaffer on April 20, 2009, 02:41:34 PM
Nice airplane and great helpers.  You did way better than me, I'm gluing 2 tails back on. 
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: Paul Taylor on April 20, 2009, 04:53:07 PM
Hey it's all good John.

Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: ray copeland on April 20, 2009, 05:33:44 PM
John,, looks like fun to me!! Take care and good luck getting that cutting off fixed,,  Ray
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 20, 2009, 09:48:27 PM
John,, looks like fun to me!! Take care and good luck getting that cutting off fixed,,  Ray
REALLY.....I wonder what's up with that ??? These McCoy type 21 engines seem to run a little too rich when inverted! The redheads don't do that....I don't know what I might be doing wrong. When I start the engine, I back it off till it starts to diesel, then click it up to power band then back it down one or two clicks; when I start to climb, it leans out just right. Somebody is gonna tell me what I'm doing wrong, my S1 Ringmaster has the same engine and does the same thing.  n~
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: john e. holliday on April 21, 2009, 07:17:45 PM
Have you tried moving the tank?  That is good looking helper you have there.  Is she going to start flying?  I have taught all my grand kids how to launch a plane.  Then have them hold handle while I get the plane if I don't land close enough. 

Now back to problem, does it quit when goig inverted or after its inverted.  I had one the tank was set too high and would quit while going inverted or doing outside maneuvers.  Even had another one in which the inverted would go rich and had to raise the tank.  All adjustments with plane in upright positionl.  Have fun and get that young lady flying.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 21, 2009, 07:59:37 PM
Have you tried moving the tank?  That is good looking helper you have there.  Is she going to start flying?  I have taught all my grand kids how to launch a plane.  Then have them hold handle while I get the plane if I don't land close enough.  That sweet little 8 year old is my daughter; that was either an accident my wife was fixin to kill me over[she was 41] or the Good Lord blessed us with!

Now back to problem, does it quit when goig inverted or after its inverted.  I had one the tank was set too high and would quit while going inverted or doing outside maneuvers.  Even had another one in which the inverted would go rich and had to raise the tank.  All adjustments with plane in upright positionl.  Have fun and get that young lady flying.  DOC Holliday
It starts crappin out after about two laps inverted, which pretty much dictates a very carefull landing! You mean raise the tank from upright....or while its inverted which is actually to lower it from the upright? n~ LL~
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: john e. holliday on April 21, 2009, 08:22:15 PM
You mean by going crappy it's going rich or lean?   If it's going rich while inverted that means the tank is above the engine in that position.  Which means when the plane is upright you have to raise the tank.  If it is going lean then go the other way.  Now do I have you confused?  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 21, 2009, 10:39:26 PM
You mean by going crappy it's going rich or lean?   If it's going rich while inverted that means the tank is above the engine in that position.  Which means when the plane is upright you have to raise the tank.  If it is going lean then go the other way.  Now do I have you confused?  DOC Holliday
Naw...I'm pretty sure it went rich....pretty quick it flooded and died. Okay, the tank is centerline with the engine, but I can raise it no problem....that means it'll be below centerline at inverted. n~
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 21, 2009, 10:41:27 PM
I'll give the grass a couple days to get back tall...I mowed it yesterday...the taller grass makes for a smooth landing upsidedown. The plane glides nice and level at dead stick inverted n~ LL~ ;D
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: Steve Holt on April 21, 2009, 10:53:47 PM
Naw...I'm pretty sure it went rich....pretty quick it flooded and died. Okay, the tank is centerline with the engine, but I can raise it no problem....that means it'll be below centerline at inverted. n~

John,
That is correct.  If it goes rich inverted, you want the tank below the centerline inverted.  That way it is harder to draw fuel and the result will be a leaner engine.while the airplane is inverted.  Most engines seem to want the tank about 1/4" above C/L to even out the run upright and inverted.
Steve
Title: Re: Finally Got To: [Flying Clown]
Post by: John Stiles on April 22, 2009, 07:12:20 AM
John,
That is correct.  If it goes rich inverted, you want the tank below the centerline inverted.  That way it is harder to draw fuel and the result will be a leaner engine.while the airplane is inverted.  Most engines seem to want the tank about 1/4" above C/L to even out the run upright and inverted.
Steve
That's gonna be the plan then! H^^