Super Tigre info needed

[Ron Cribbs]

Guys, looking to source a couple ST stunt .35's

There seems to be some confusion out there as to which is is a stunt version and which is a combat version. I am assuming the C21/35 is the stunt and the G21/35 is the combat version. Is this correct?

I know the baffle is a dead giveaway for the stunt, but it's hard to tell from pictures. So are all C21/35's stunt and all G21's combat? I see a lot of engines up for sale claiming stunt with a G on the case and vice versa for the C's

Any insight would be most appreciated.

Ron

[Bob Heywood]

Not quite so.

The Super Tigre C35 is a plain bearing design. They came with stunt timing and combat timing. There were also Perry Directional Ported (PDP) versions. The G21/35 is a ball bearing design. They also came in different states of tune as well as being set up for suction or pressure, front intake, rear intake, etc.

[Garf]

The plain bearing model came in Combat and Stunt models. The combat had the same porting as the G21, the stunt model used a baffle piston and standard cyllinder porting.

[RandySmith]

The plain bearing model came in Combat and Stunt models. The combat had the same porting as the G21, the stunt model used a baffle piston and standard cyllinder porting.

The difference between the  plain bearing combat vs  Stunt version, was the  Piston. sleeve  and  head, The piston, of course has a baffle on it and the head is a different shape with a baffle clearance slot milled into it   I have seen PDP  combat versions, but  I personally  never saw a  PDP stunt version

Randy

[Juan Valentin]

Here is a couple of pics of the two ST.35 versions this are C35.I just bought another one in hope that is a stunt version.
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[M Spencer]

Brian Gardner did some ABC ' Stunt ' 35 Super Tigre piston liners .

They go in the 21/35 Ball Bearing too . . . just have to take a disc grinder to the head for the baffle slot . 
Tho I think he had heads done too .

I tried a 35C ( Combat ) and a 21/35 in the olde Phantom 52 span Magnum 25 / OS 25 sucker . FSR BB 25 did maybe 10 minutes ,
21/35 did 7 minutes odd , and 35 C , still tight in the shaft , did around 5 min - on the same tank full . Thats the ' flat top ' 35 C .

The 21/35s came with a Big & a Little  ( 9 mm & 3.2 mm Venturie ) The 21/35 unmuffled on a 9 x 6 theee blade sounded nice &
meanaceing unmuffled - in a damp steady 2 stroke .

The BIG Problem  if it is one , is the ' Flat top ' piston set up has marginal ' sub piston induction ' right across under the piston
at T.D.C. ,
said to contaminate the case charge Muffled , & reduce Output discernably .

So the A B C set up is the easy answer . Tho I think most C-35-S were eaerly ' Hard Liner ' and last forever . Before the Liners were less hardened for easier Break In . A bit like the Rings in all but Early Chinese STs were less hardened - were told - for easier / quicker Break In .

Reports from 21/35 Users of the Stunt A.B.C. set up appear favourable . But Weight'd be similar to the 21/46 . So where does that leave you.

[M Spencer]

Of Course , the most important Thing , is to have the RIGHT STICKERS .







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Anyone does some of these , theyd better send me some .