FAA Special Rule (again)

[Ken Culbertson]

I received my Model Aviation Saturday and after confirming that there was absolutely nothing of interest in it I regulated it to the restroom.    This morning I read the opening article on the FAA bill and it prompted me to ask if we (PAMPA, etc.) have anybody in this "AMA Lobby Group?"  Along with free flight, Stunt built the AMA and now I feel we are the "baby in the bathwater".

[Perry Rose]

PAMPA has been visibly absent on this issue.

[FLOYD CARTER]

AMA is fighting hard on behalf of Dronenuts.  In politics, there is a saying, "Follow The Money".  This certainly applies to the mind-set of AMA.

[Dave_Trible]

PAMPA has been visibly absent on this issue.

Letters, email and phone calls to your own representatives will carry far more weight.  We would spend our time answering the “what’s Pampa?” question.

Dave

[Ken Culbertson]

Letters, email and phone calls to your own representatives will carry far more weight.  We would spend our time answering the “what’s Pampa?” question.

Dave

Already done that.  I just want to know if anyone on the AMA delegation has any CL in their blood.

[Dave_Trible]

None in particular that I know of.  Actually though RC is supposed to be far more affected than CL.  AMA is still saying CL won’t be impacted at all- that’s NOT how we read it however.  Nonetheless CL representation in this matter wouldn’t make any difference.

Dave

[Randy Cuberly]

Already done that.  I just want to know if anyone on the AMA delegation has any CL in their blood.

The fellow who wrote that article was at one time a Control Line flier.  In fact some many years ago he attended a VSC in Tucson and was offered and accepted a flight on a loaner airplane and managed a flight without assistance! I suspect however that he has become more "politician" than modeler now, in spite of being a fairly nice guy!

I also read that article and was completely confused by the text!  Talk about talking from both sides of your mouth!

Whew!

Following the MONEY is definitely what they are doing!

Time for a whole new group of AMA officers!  The R/C Aircraft folks can't be too happy with this bunch of slap happy idiots either!

Randy Cuberly

[JoeJust]

I too read he article and then began to find out that there are two very large groups of "Quad" professionals that are totally against the AMA's position.  Hate to say it, but it don't look good for the home team today!
Joe

[Brett Buck]

PAMPA has been visibly absent on this issue.

  PAMPA is an AMA Special Interest Group and is thus part of the AMA. We have no more lobbying power than the AMA.

    Brett

[Dave Hull]

Joe,

If the two professional quad groups are against the "AMA position," then what position are they for? I haven't taken the time to dig out these positions and it would be helpful for you to share if you already have.

Thanks!

Dave

"I too read he article and then began to find out that there are two very large groups of "Quad" professionals that are totally against the AMA's position.  Hate to say it, but it don't look good for the home team today!"

Joe

[JoeJust]

In a nut shell, the two groups do not want special advantages given to the model airplane hobby.  They feel that drones are to be sanctioned only by professional groups. All this is in the recent MA mag. One needs o read several articles to find this out. In a recent discussion with a person involved in the Ag usage of Drones, the group feeling is that Civilian Drone hobbyists are a source of dangerous flying. Far too many users of professional Drones have had way too many episodes with unregistered and totally unaware drone users of  a Drone are being  regarded as being dangerous and should be forbidden to use these toys in the public air spaces.  In  a local Big Box store recently I was in line behind a man buying a $400 drone. When I mentioned to him that he should have his name and aircraft registered with the FAA he told me right out what I could do with that idea. After he left I asked he checkout person if he was supposed to mention the registration to a buyer, the man old me to mind my own business. Maybe the clerk was right. Twenty years ago I tried to get involved with an argument in a gas station, and ended up with half of my right leg no longer able to function. Huge, professional organizations will win out over us toy people.  The house and the Senate will lean toward deep pockets, not a group with fairly good safety history every day.
I SURE HOPE I AM WRONG!
Joe

[Ken Culbertson]

In a nut shell, the two groups do not want special advantages given to the model airplane hobby.  They feel that drones are to be sanctioned only by professional groups. All this is in the recent MA mag. One needs o read several articles to find this out. In a recent discussion with a person involved in the Ag usage of Drones, the group feeling is that Civilian Drone hobbyists are a source of dangerous flying. Far too many users of professional Drones have had way too many episodes with unregistered and totally unaware drone users of  a Drone are being  regarded as being dangerous and should be forbidden to use these toys in the public air spaces.  In  a local Big Box store recently I was in line behind a man buying a $400 drone. When I mentioned to him that he should have his name and aircraft registered with the FAA he told me right out what I could do with that idea. After he left I asked he checkout person if he was supposed to mention the registration to a buyer, the man old me to mind my own business. Maybe the clerk was right. Twenty years ago I tried to get involved with an argument in a gas station, and ended up with half of my right leg no longer able to function. Huge, professional organizations will win out over us toy people.  The house and the Senate will lean toward deep pockets, not a group with fairly good safety history every day.
I SURE HOPE I AM WRONG!


Joe

I was afraid it would become all about drones and we would become road kill.  All you have to do is thumb through a MA to know who is funding the AMA.  In my opinion you were minding your business.  As much as I hate to say it, they have a point.  The amature drone is dangerous and needs to be regulated but not by killing the hobby because they are too lazy to do otherwise.

[Brett Buck]

I too read he article and then began to find out that there are two very large groups of "Quad" professionals that are totally against the AMA's position.  Hate to say it, but it don't look good for the home team today!\

     The commercial quadcopter guys have more-or-less the same issue that we have with it - they are lumping them in with the buy-and-fly drone idiots, too, and as long as that albatross is tied around your neck, you are going to get draconian regulations (which they are of course interested in avoiding, just like us).

     Brett

[Mike Keville]

AMA is fighting hard on behalf of Dronenuts.  In politics, there is a saying, "Follow The Money".  This certainly applies to the mind-set of AMA.

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...which may help explain why, after 62 years of membership, I quit the "Academy of Multirotors and ARFs" last year.

[Ken Culbertson]

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...which may help explain why, after 62 years of membership, I quit the "Academy of Multirotors and ARFs" last year.

I am still pissed that they lost my CD number when they moved from DC.  So much for the "you get to keep it" speech.  Guess I should have kept paying for nothing all those years.  Someday I am going to go to a contest and there will be someone with my number.

Sorry - off subject.

[peabody]

Wait until you see the cover of TIME!

[Bob Heywood]

950 drones in the air...

[peabody]

And taken from a drone!

[Randy Cuberly]

And taken from a drone!

I'm not surprised!  Time Mag lost their way about 40 years ago!  I'm just surprised that anybody but Hollwood Idiots read the RAG!

Randy Cuberly