FAA Rule Proposal Discussion

[Norm Faith Jr.]

I don't know if this is exactly where I should post this or not, but I just received this, this evening. Some of you may have seen and listened to it already; I also know that from past threads, most of us feel that all this "FAA intervention talk," will only pertain to R/C aircraft...BUT! Take time to listen to the presentation and make up your own opinion about your operation of control line aircraft being brought under some kind of operational restrictions. I believe that during the discussion I heard "all model aircraft" mentioned.
I hope that the link will open for you.   http://www.modelaircraft.org/amatv.aspx

Norm

[john e. holliday]

I too hope that the powers that are at the AMA don't include control line in the restriction talks.   At one time control line was the only class of planes allowed to fly at Shawnee Mission Park because someone that did not or was not told about the requirements of radio control flying.   The hobby shop that sold them the equipment did not explain to the individuals about the flying rules.   Also they did not read the rles that were posted at the RC site.   Now we have hardly any RC flying because of new restrictive rules.  I can't fly RC there because I refuse to join the club just to get a park permit for RC flying.

[John Fitzgerald]

I believe a control liner is not considered an aircraft under FAA rules.  An aircraft is described as "free-flying".  A control liner would be classed the same as a kite or tethered balloon under FAA, according to what I have read, although we know it is not the same as a kite.  Common sense and government are many times not compatible, however.

[Bill Heher]

I brought up the same point in my letter, and received the same answer. C/L planes are not considered "aircraft" because they do not fly free from contact with the ground.
I think they realized that if they included "tethered" flying objects every new housing development, used car lot, big appliance warehouse would have to have their advertising balloons, giant Gorrillas, etc subject to FAA control / approval.

[Marvin Denny]

  Norm, I watched that video (all parts of it) TWICE I think our president made a fool of himself (my opinion), and also I didn't get any indication of any realistic questions or replies that made much sense.
  What size RC planes do they want controlled?  We have from small park fliers and living room sizes all the way up to ---GET THIS-- 257 inch wing span electric monsters.  At what point in size do they wish to start control?  WHY??? What do they wish to do about non AMA members that go down to the local ARF store and buy planes??  After only a few training flights they think they can handle anything??  Nuff Sed.

  Bigiron

[Norm Faith Jr.]

Point well taken Marvin, being that you watched all 6 chapters twice, makes you a far more patient person than myself. I may have misinterpreted or not of heard correctly...but, I believe the young lady, FAA rep. used a terminology referring to "all model airplanes." Regardless..."The camel has gotten his nose in the tent."

[Paul Smith]

High noon.  January 21, 2012.  The final year of our reign of terror begins. 

God willing, sane government will follow.   

In the meantime, let us hope that the FAA is no more effective than Drug Enforcement, the Border Patrol, and voter registration.

[John Fitzgerald]

Point well taken Marvin, being that you watched all 6 chapters twice, makes you a far more patient person than myself. I may have misinterpreted or not of heard correctly...but, I believe the young lady, FAA rep. used a terminology referring to "all model airplanes." Regardless..."The camel has gotten his nose in the tent."

She doesn't know that control line exists, from what I could tell.  They really did not accomplish anything substantive.