FAA Remote ID Video Explanation

[Mike Griffin]

I am part owner of a Real Estate Photography company that serves the residential and commercial Real Estate markets.  We also serve construction companies, agriculture, insurance claims adjusters and disaster relief with mapping software after a natural disaster.   Aerial Photography and video is a big part of our business and we now own 5 state of the art high end drones that cost north of $2000.00 each.

I am including a link with post for you to see that explains in plain language how this is going to be detrimental to all commercial drone pilots and will probably carry over to affect RC Pilots.  I hope it does not affect Control Line Pilots but who knows with these people from the FAA.

It is going to be about 2 1/2 years before this will be going into effect and I honestly dont know what the future of our company will be.  Covid has already crippled us.

Make sure you listen to the bad news about half way through the video and how they can track you exact location from where your are flying. 

Here is the Link :   

Mike

[GallopingGhostler]

I hope it does not affect Control Line Pilots but who knows with these people from the FAA.

I read the initial ruling that came out a couple years ago, and the definition of a tethered UAS as worded could include our cable operated control line aircraft. I've been told by various AMA members and the official statements by the AMA that it does not include C/L. What concerns me, is not what they claim it is being interpreted as, but what in reality it really says.

Having worked intimately with contractual verbiage, what you hold a contractor to is what is actually written. They are bound by what they signed up for.

I truly wonder how many people really read the contracts and agreements that they sign. Are they that naive?

[Brett Buck]

I read the initial ruling that came out a couple years ago, and the definition of a tethered UAS as worded could include our cable operated control line aircraft. I've been told by various AMA members and the official statements by the AMA that it does not include C/L. What concerns me, is not what they claim it is being interpreted as, but what in reality it really says.

Having worked intimately with contractual verbiage, what you hold a contractor to is what is actually written. They are bound by what they signed up for.

   That is the only thing we have going for us right now- the written rule describes a UAS very specifically, it includes the use of a "ground control station"   They were attempting to describe a typical quadcopter drone, but the same definition happened to include traditional LOS RC, and there was no real effort to distinguish it. FF, for sure, does not have anything resembling a "ground control station" and is therefore not a UAS. It is an extreme stretch to consider a control handle a "ground control station", so it almost certainly is not a UAS, either.   I think that part of it is OK, and that is the same part that the AMA bases their statements on.

   The problem I and many other people have with it is that there are documents and pamphlets summarizing the situation for others, and in those, i have yet to see a single attempt to clearly make that distinction, they say that if it is more than 5.5 ounces and goes in the air, it is regulated.   Meaning, you could probably win a court case over it, but that means you have already had to go to court, and that alone is prohibitive.

     Brett

[Dave_Trible]

Not once did he mention control line models and from what I heard, we don't exist.

That's sort of the point, and how they want to keep it at AMA with at least a quiet understanding with FAA.  The concern is that if they make an issue of it the lawyers from the other side will see something they will want to chase.  Don't bait the hook.  You'd have to explain to them what CL is.  It may be better they don't know we exist.

Dave

[Mike Griffin]

Not once did he mention control line models and from what I heard, we don't exist.

You are right TY.  I am really afraid that RC flyers are going to be caught up in this and we are going to see that hobby disappear.  The man who made this video is not with the FAA.  He is a commercial drone operator. 

Mike

[GallopingGhostler]

That is the only thing we have going for us right now- the written rule describes a UAS very specifically, it includes the use of a "ground control station"

Photo of my ground control station is attached.

The problem I and many other people have with it is that there are documents and pamphlets summarizing the situation for others, and in those, i have yet to see a single attempt to clearly make that distinction, they say that if it is more than 5.5 ounces and goes in the air, it is regulated.

Exactly, some do gooder sees me flying in an industrial park company parking lot. Claims I'm violating his air space because he can't hear the blue eyed booby because my electric Ringmaster is making a lot of racket. Calls the FAA claiming I'm operating without a license. Inspector comes and cites me for operating my tethered UAS without a license. Or, a municipal inspector claims I'm violating FAA regulations that the city has adopted, because of my unauthorized use of a tethered UAS. Don't think stuff like this doesn't happen?

Stuff like this makes cash register noises for lawyers and additional income for municipalities.

Meaning, you could probably win a court case over it, but that means you have already had to go to court, and that alone is prohibitive.

Yup, the only ones that truly win are the lawyers.