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Title: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: Steve Hines on February 18, 2012, 05:54:39 PM
This is the second plane I have tryed like this. The fuse is at 8.2oz, the fiber and Kote added .6 of a oz. I put on a noise ring and cheek cowl. The wing is at 8.9oz and has not been sanded. I took just a little over a half bottle. 500ml at $20. I put the fiber down with first coat, than second coat and lite sanding with 320, than the third coat. I wet sanded the fuse with 400. I dont know if I needed to put primer on it, I could have sanded a little better, but I allway sand thru things. I have not dope and fiber, but with this stuff you do not get wood grain.

There is no smell with this, and it cleans up with water. I have as much as time in this as I would getting a plane ready for silkspan. You do have to pin down the flaps and small things this does shink some, but after the second coat it is fine. It sands great wet or dry.

I going to put polyspan on the open bays, I have the Eze-dope but have not made up my mind on what im going to use. I have did test panels with this over dope and dope over it and everything works great. Acetone will take it out of a brush after about 3 hours of soaking and cleaning, I not going to say why I tested this.
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: Paul Taylor on February 18, 2012, 08:48:49 PM
Looks Great!!!

So why did you test this? LL~
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: SteveMoon on February 19, 2012, 08:00:43 AM
Where did you get the Eze Kote? Is it a product you can get at
a hobby shop? I do see a pic of a plane on the label.

Thanks, Steve
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: Bill Hodges on February 19, 2012, 09:35:57 AM
Steve:

Horizon Hobby sells the Eze Kote in 17 oz. bottles for $19.99.  Looks interesting.  I might have to give it a try.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/eze-kote-DLMBD37

Bill Hodges
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: SteveMoon on February 19, 2012, 11:26:52 AM
Thanks Bill
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: Paul Taylor on February 19, 2012, 11:29:11 AM
Found this on the u-tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQJ-mkoYQIo
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: Steve Hines on February 19, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Well Paul after the third brush I tryed to clean it. I used to much dope in my life. I got it from Horizon first, now I just have the hobby shop get it, no shipping. It works great on fiber glass cloth, just like the video on youtube
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: Paul Taylor on February 19, 2012, 05:53:20 PM
Steve
Let us know how it works with the covering.
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: dirty dan on February 21, 2012, 12:06:44 PM
I'd be interested in how secure is the bond. If it's equal to epoxy, good deal. If equal to clear dope, not such a good deal. Well, other than the apparent lack of stink in the shop and/or health issues from years of using dope.

Also betting that this product lifted from a high-volume, non-hobby application. It might be in many hardware stores already.

Dan
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: Steven Kientz on February 21, 2012, 03:16:32 PM
Is there any mention of adding filler(talc?) for open bays on a wing?

Steve
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: Steve Hines on February 21, 2012, 03:44:23 PM
It has a little bit of shrink in it, I tryed it on silkspan. I just put down some polyspan with the eze-dope. I used the dope on a broken wing with silkspan it stick good. It does not get as stiff as real dope, it does shrink good. It does sand a little harded than the Kote, it is not as hard. The eze-kote might be able to be used over the polyspan, I need to do a test wing.

Steve
Title: Re: Eze-Kote and carbon Fiber
Post by: john e. holliday on February 21, 2012, 04:32:17 PM
The stuff looks similar to the poly-crylic paint I have used to put down glass clothe and silk span.   It is a milky color and dries clear.   Fills the wood as well as seals it.   Put down a coat, let dry, sand smooth.   Lay down glass, another coat of poly-crylic.  Let dry and light sanding.   A third coat may make it were it uses very little filler to fill the glass after another sanding  job.  I have done three coats using glass in one day on the smaller planes and very little weight gain.