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Title: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: wwwarbird on January 06, 2008, 08:05:21 PM
 I've always loved the look of the "El Diablo", but just haven't ever gotten around to building one. During a larger model building project last winter, I had the idea to "whip-up" a smaller version for a Norvel .061 I had lying around.  Norvel makes a larger clunk tank that works perfectly, and makes for a longer flight. It simply extends through the firewall from what you see in these photos, and almost doubles the capacity.
 I simply drew myself up a set of plans using the original as a reference, started cutting wood, and this is what I ended up with. I kept the paint scheme simple because I wanted kind of a "period" look.
 The model spans 28" and will easily fly the pattern on 42' x .012" lines...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: wwwarbird on January 06, 2008, 08:07:43 PM
Engine installation with Norvel .061, Master Airscrew 6x3...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: wwwarbird on January 06, 2008, 08:08:46 PM
Side view...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: wwwarbird on January 06, 2008, 08:10:03 PM
Bottom...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: wwwarbird on January 06, 2008, 08:11:27 PM
A size comparo with a couple .35's...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: Steve Scott on January 06, 2008, 10:02:24 PM
42' lines, eh?  What were they when I flew this down at Sig a couple of years ago?  24'?  Man, that thing was really zipping around on that Norvel .061!
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: wwwarbird on January 06, 2008, 11:51:33 PM
Yep Steve, they were 42's! A "little devil" wasn't it! y1

Here's a top view...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: wwwarbird on January 07, 2008, 12:05:22 AM
More of the engine install...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: wwwarbird on January 07, 2008, 12:10:09 AM
3/4 rear...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: Jim Thomerson on January 07, 2008, 11:03:32 AM
Was it your Li'l El Diablo I saw at the VSC last year?  Didn't see it fly.  It would be a neat airplane for someone to kit.  I'd buy one.
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: wwwarbird on January 07, 2008, 12:57:52 PM
 Yep, that was the one Jim. I finished it right before VSC 2007, and couldn't resist bringing it along. The maiden flights were that Saturday evening after the official stuff was done for the day. I thought it would be neat and kind of appropriate to fly it for the first time at VSC. It flew great from the very first flight with no adjustments. You can't help but chuckle when you fly it, it's just a fun little airplane that flies really well.
 The "Li'l Diablo" would be very easy for someone to kit, and it's a really quick build. I've got enough drawings and patterns saved to draw up plans fairly easily. S?P
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"???
Post by: minnesotamodeler on January 08, 2008, 08:40:55 AM
Very slick...it does indeed cry out to be kitted!  So when you bringing it out?

Weight and wing area?

--Ray
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Post by: Shawn Kuntz on January 08, 2008, 09:20:55 AM
If you kit it then I am buying one!  Awesome!
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Post by: Doug Moon on January 08, 2008, 07:41:10 PM
That Hughes H-1 in the background looks cool too!

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Post by: frank carlisle on January 08, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
Nice work as usual Wayne. H^^
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Post by: Tom Niebuhr on January 10, 2008, 07:09:41 AM
NEWS!!!!!

Blue Sky Models will be kitting the "Li'l Diablo" Wayne and I will be coordinating on this very soon.

Please let me know if you are interested.

Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: wwwarbird on January 10, 2008, 05:31:18 PM
I will be working up some drawings for Tom Niehbur at Blue Sky Models very soon.

Stay tuned! y1
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: minnesotamodeler on January 10, 2008, 06:35:12 PM
Very cool...projected price?  (and I'm still curious about weight and wing area of the prototype...)

--Ray
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on January 11, 2008, 06:56:09 AM
As said above, we are just starting on this project. Can't make any projections at this time.
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on January 13, 2008, 09:48:25 AM
As stated above, Wayne is working up a drawing for me. I will then make a CAD drawing.
The span is 28". I do not know the chord, so I cannot give the wing area at this time. We will give updates as we go.
 The kits will be laser cut.

I would like to have intersted people let me know. If you have already made a reply, your are on the list.

Thanks
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: wwwarbird on January 14, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
 Bump. ;D

 Spec sheet added, see post: "Li'l Diablo" the spec sheet...
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: wwwarbird on June 05, 2008, 07:43:31 PM
 Bumping this up for a guy in the Classified section who is looking for a 1/2A kit... ;D
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: Garf on June 05, 2008, 10:02:07 PM
Will this fly with a Fox .07?
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: wwwarbird on June 06, 2008, 07:34:25 AM
 Garf,

 I think so. Could you or someone possibly show us a picture of that engine? I don't recall how the Fox .07 is configured.
 I've considered building one for an AP .09. The Norvel .061 on my prototype is plenty of power as it is though, it will take off from a trimmed grass field easily, kind of like shooting a rubber band. ;D
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: Just One-eye on June 06, 2008, 08:16:25 AM
Will this fly with a Fox .07?

Phil, if you haven't ever used a small Fox, other than the FAI 049, you may not know how poor the .07 actually is/was (and the similar .09).  It's on the order of an OK Cub .039, maybe a bit better -- quite weak for a plane the size of this one! 
Title: Re: Ever seen a "Li'l Diablo"??? (Now with additional news as of 1-10-08)
Post by: George on June 08, 2008, 05:42:26 PM
Garf,

 I think so. Could you or someone possibly show us a picture of that engine? I don't recall how the Fox .07 is configured.
 I've considered building one for an AP .09. The Norvel .061 on my prototype is plenty of power as it is though, it will take off from a trimmed grass field easily, kind of like shooting a rubber band. ;D

Fox .07 is center-back. Others are Fox FAI .049's.

George