Author Topic: Europa finally started (Read 10443 times)

Steve Bakac · « **on:** October 04, 2010, 02:44:55 AM »

G/Day guys,
Finally find time to get my Europa started.Thought you guys might like to see some pics.
The foam wings are Bob Hunts.Hope these work .

Regards Steve

Leester · « **Reply #1 on:** October 04, 2010, 04:15:19 AM »

Lookin good Steve

Whats the span on it, and what engine are you going to use

add more pictures any time.

Allen Brickhaus · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2010, 05:36:24 AM »

You have chosen a very nice model to build.

Allen Brickhaus

john e. holliday · « **Reply #3 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:15:19 AM »

Looking great. Had me worried that you were building in your living room until I seen the photo with the shavings on the floor. Keep us posted.

Neville Legg · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:56:00 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on October 04, 2010, 08:15:19 AM

Looking great. Had me worried that you were building in your living room until I seen the photo with the shavings on the floor. Keep us posted.

What's wrong with building in the living room?

I used to drive my mother around the bend building in the house, (1960's) until I got a shed at the end of the garden!

Please tell me you are going to put an aerofoil section on those elevators and flaps on that lovely looking model?

Cheers

Matt Colan · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:59:57 PM »

Very cool so far!! Keep us posted!

Steve Bakac · « **Reply #6 on:** October 05, 2010, 01:45:12 AM »

Thanks guys
Leester wing span is close to 52in and around 585sq ,motor at this stage super tiger 46 going into it .Allen I have a ultra hobby buccaneer 740 next might be my first electric. John the room was the shed we lived in for a while until I built our house with a bonus of my flying field right next to it.Neville not sure yet I not good at shaping so its easy for me round the edges (lazy sorry ha ha)Matt thanks

Regards Bucky

Allen Brickhaus · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2010, 06:36:01 AM »

Good choice for your first electric model. The Buccaneer is a very competitive stunter and its simple lines lets you concentrate on your internals. The Europa, I believe, is a smaller version of Bob Hunt's Saturn.

Allen Brickhaus

Allen Brickhaus · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2010, 01:08:23 PM »

I happily stand corrected.

Allen Brickhaus

Neville Legg · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2010, 02:17:35 PM »

Bucky, putting a section on flaps, elevators, fins etc. is not difficult, just put a centre line around the edge. Having a dad who was a carpenter (my mums name is Mary too

)! taught me how to do this, (he's a very good modeller too) sharp pencil, finger on one side of the elevator, pencil in the middle and slide! Or you can fix the pencil at the right height on the bench and run the part along it, so long as you have a centreline to work from! A sharp Zip plane and sanding blocks and there you have it! Think of the weight you can save aswell

Aaron Little · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2010, 05:49:40 PM »

I have thought about building one of these for a long, long time, since I first read the magazine article way back in what 1991?
Robby had two of them, the yellow one and a white one with purple umm well i dont know what they are called for sure but it was gorgeous, I think Robby never flew that one much.
I also remember Joey (who's last name escapes me) built a plane called a _____ forgot name but I think it started with an A that looked similar but had a more square tail (at the '92 nats?)
I built a prowler which was from what I remember a Bob Hunt designed profile to the Europa look, called it a Nexus, it was a good plane.
Having become friends with Robby I ended up building the Geo Star shortly after and the rest as they say is history.
I was actually thinking just the other day about re-visiting the Europa with one of those new Enyas or something similar in it (probably a Aero Tiger).

I really hope to see more pictures as it gets closer to being done and of course actually finished.

Aaron

Aaron Little · « **Reply #11 on:** October 16, 2010, 05:48:56 AM »

Cool, thanks for taking the time to post those Bob!
Kinda neat to see those old ones again, also neat to catch a glimpse of the Lexicon which I had sort of forgot about and the Crossfire that I love!

Allen Brickhaus · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2010, 06:56:39 AM »

Bob,

Thanks for the pictures, they are great.

Allen Brickhaus

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2010, 09:59:38 AM »

Bob,

That brings a lot back. It was just yesterday wasn't it?

As a side note, I sure wish that people would use fill flash when taking outdoor pictures of people with hats on. That will make the faces visible.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2010, 01:26:51 PM »

Three very fine gentlemen. I still remember the look on Robby's face when I asked him to launch for me at the NATS one year. Has he ever got back to flying again?

Randy Powell · « **Reply #15 on:** October 18, 2010, 03:06:20 PM »

But will you paint it bronze?

PJ Rowland · « **Reply #16 on:** October 18, 2010, 05:44:01 PM »

"Robby is making overtures about coming back, but at the moment he is busy with work and school"

I chat to robbie on facebook every now and then.. and he's made this threat before.. ( its hard to compete again college girls.. ! )
! Now that his arm/hand is getting better. Maybe we can coax him out for a few days in 2011 !!!

I'll have to have a go at him about those glasses!

Ohh BTW the new model looks really nice.

Bill Little · « **Reply #17 on:** October 19, 2010, 12:35:00 PM »

Hi Steve,

I hope the Europa is all you want it to be! It has a superb "bloodline".

I can't help to continue the hijack, the Hunt's have always been special people to me. In more ways than one!

It's great to see the old*er* pictures and I, too, hope Robby can return to flying real soon. The days are slowly passing, but the years have flown by!

Mongo

Aaron Little · « **Reply #18 on:** October 19, 2010, 01:05:58 PM »

Quote from: PJ Rowland on October 18, 2010, 05:44:01 PM

I'll have to have a go at him about those glasses!

Dude check out one Mr. Todd Lee rocking the mullet, I am going to have to talk to him about this!
That was what 1992 or 1993 Nats?
I want to say 1993

Matt Colan · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2010, 02:14:26 PM »

Robby has told me on facebook that he lifting weights to hopefully alleviate the problems he's had with his arm/wrist.

John Sunderland · « **Reply #20 on:** October 19, 2010, 03:45:50 PM »

The Europa is the last plane my father built...46 oz with an Aero 36...tons of power but a bit light in the nose. Showed lots of promise until the ill fated hangar accident of 2010. The lost foam wing jig is making the rounds in our club at the moment but cant wait to do another....every bit as good as it looks.

Aaron Little · « **Reply #21 on:** October 19, 2010, 05:07:09 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on October 19, 2010, 05:03:43 PM

Aaron:

That was the 1991 Nats in Lawrenceville!

Bob

OK
I know we met you guys in 93 and Rob was flying the Yellow Europa so that is why I was thinking maybe '93, did Paul fly that Impact again in '93? OR wait he flew the one that Howard's looks like I think with the Checkboard on the side etc. Todd always has a Magnunstang!

There are a lot of pictures from that nats at Dad's house I need to thumb through them again.

Aaron Little · « **Reply #22 on:** October 19, 2010, 05:15:12 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on October 19, 2010, 05:08:30 PM

Yeah, Robby flew the yellow Europa to wins in 1991 and in 1993, both times at Lawrenceville.

Bob

Well I am way off I guess...
Maybe we met you guys first in '92?
I thought we were at Vincenes (sp?) then...

I don't know now, I am to young to forget stuff!

Bill Little · « **Reply #23 on:** October 19, 2010, 06:59:12 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on October 19, 2010, 05:22:45 PM

We met you guys in 1993 at Lawrenceville. Our motels were across the Red Skelton river in Vincennes...

Exactly. When we pulled up to the field the first time, Aaron said, "Dad, that is Bob Hunt". I had no clue as to how he knew that.

I still remember crossing the Red Skelton Bridge for the first time. And helping Al Reed change a speedometer cable at night at the motel, and Bob Gieseke being out there (before he took off the outboard wing on the runway light). Steve Buso and I were trying to come up with a way to get Bounty paper towels to make a commercial with us in it...... loooong story. And Paul doing a good impersonation of a rain dance during a practice flight...

Gads to be young(er) again..........

Bill

Allan Perret · « **Reply #24 on:** October 22, 2010, 07:05:31 AM »

Quote from: Aaron Little on October 15, 2010, 05:49:40 PM

I was actually thinking just the other day about re-visiting the Europa with one of those new Enyas or something similar in it (probably a Aero Tiger).
Aaron

When you say "new Enyas" are you talking about the 32's. I have a couple of the 32 RE's looking for a home. Would the Europa accommodate a pipe, and would that be a good power package ? I am not familiar with that design..

Allan Perret · « **Reply #25 on:** October 22, 2010, 12:52:33 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on October 22, 2010, 08:44:38 AM

Hi Allen:

Yes, the Enya .32 or .36 would be a great choice of power for the Europa. And it will accomodate a tuned pipe. In fact the two original Europas had tuned pipes fitted. I'm attaching a photo that was posted in an earlier reply. It's a flight shot of Robby's original yellow, red and black Europa and if you look close you can see the tuned pipe and the exhaust coming out of the rubber fitting at the end of the pipe.

Later - Bob Hunt

Hey Bob:
I take it you sell the plan ?

Bill Little · « **Reply #26 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:17:45 PM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on October 19, 2010, 07:27:32 PM

Yup, and the very first thing you and Aaron did after we first met was to help us carry our stuff from the practice circle to the competition circle pit area! How's that for a memory?

Bob

Very good memory! I vividly remember telling Aaron to grab a box. He was a bit tentative at first.

Of course, his trepidation was soon overcome by your, and Robby's, graciousness. Doesn't seem like it was 17 years ago..............

I suspect a Europa, a Caprice, and another unmentioned plane (2nd time) might get built by Aaron before too long in his quest to go to a bit smaller plane. Storage and transportation make it tough for planes like the Geo XL, etc..

Bill

Allan Perret · « **Reply #27 on:** October 23, 2010, 08:10:52 AM »

Quote from: Bob Hunt on October 22, 2010, 02:13:36 PM

Hi Allan:

Actually the plan for the original Europa is available from Carstens Publications (Flying Models Plans Service). It is listed in the plans directory as plan CF-971.

I do have the fuselage and stab. & elev. plan for what we call the Europa Mk.II. It has a slightly longer tail moment and can be built using either a built-up wing or a foam wing. The original one that was published in FM showed a foam wing, which was what both of Robby's Europas had. The original can also be built with a built-up wing. I do provide cores, covered foam wings, Lost-Foam building fixtures and even fully built built-up wings for both versions. I'm sure that there are other foam cutters out there who could also provide the needed cores for this model.

Later - Bob

So is the plan you have for the MKII complete enough to build the plane from ?
Edit: just realized your plan lacks the wing, correct. If I got a foam wing core from you with your plan, would that work ?

M Spencer · « **Reply #28 on:** October 11, 2019, 10:02:19 PM »

Id think it'd depend on the Aircraft total WEIGHT more than anything , and might be better in light air ,( without the pipe set up . So should build lighter )?

Steve Bakac · « **Reply #29 on:** October 13, 2019, 01:32:24 AM »

Motorman la46 should been a good match
Cheers

Dwayne · « **Reply #30 on:** October 13, 2019, 06:49:56 AM »

Quote from: Motorman on October 11, 2019, 05:58:00 PM

Is an OS LA 46 too much or too heavy for the Europa? Can't imagine it would be since it works so good on my smaller Twister.

Thanks,
Motorman

I believe one of the originals had a HP 40 in it which weighs about the same as a LA 46 so the LA should be a good choice.

Author Topic: Europa finally started (Read 10443 times)

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