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Title: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: pat king on November 12, 2007, 10:30:12 PM
OK all you Enyaphiles out there. I was just at the Enya site (http://www.enya-engine.com/store/index.php). They are producing and selling new .29 IV and .35 III Model 5224 C/L engines. So, if you want a great starting, strong running, last forever engine, you can buy them NIB from Enya. The site doesn’t say if they come with both heads and three venturi inserts, but for stunt flying the 9.0 to 1 head and the #2 and #3 venturi insert are not necessary.

Pat  S?P
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Brian Hampton on November 12, 2007, 11:54:48 PM
Excellent! The 7000 yen for the 35 is roughly US$65 or about Aus$70. I've got the new version of the 60-IIIB and have just started running it in. With 50+ minutes so far the ring has barely started to run in. I could only see signs by taking a closeup photo then adjusting the brightness and contrast. However it's a one flick starter :).

Kaz Minato has been offering 20% off the factory prices...or he was when I got my 60 through him. http://homepage3.nifty.com/bluemax/MNT001.html
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Clint Ormosen on November 13, 2007, 12:15:26 AM
That means the old NIB .29's I've been saving are now worthless  :'(.
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: dennis lipsett on November 13, 2007, 05:05:04 AM
Actually the problem is how can you buy a new one when all your old ones are not worn out ,and show no signs of ever wearing out.
dennis
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Mike Spiess on November 13, 2007, 10:21:44 AM
Well some of us don't have one.
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Bob Zambelli on November 13, 2007, 10:55:43 AM
That's really good to hear - as far as I know, the only other .35 being made is the Fox.

In 1965 I bought one of the first series - came with two heads and three square venturis. I installed it in a green-box Nobler and with one homemade .015 head shim, it ran as well as any Fox.

I ran about a gallon of Superfuel through it before I flew it. Then, I made around 100 flights in the Nobler.

Then I put it in a Flite Streak and flew it for a season.

I still have the engine and it's almost broken in now!!  LL~ LL~ LL~

The second series 5224 had a round venturi.

Bob Z.

Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: john e. holliday on November 13, 2007, 01:25:09 PM
That is what they used to tell me back in the late 50's about a Fox 35 Stunt.  Buy it,  run it on the bench to learn to start it.  Then fly it all summer and you might have it half way broken in.  It was also the same with Enya and OS Max when they first came out.  Have fun,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Ron Merrill on November 13, 2007, 01:32:49 PM
Isn't it nice how the hits just keep coming for C/L engines these days. #^ #^ #^ Ron.
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Bob Zambelli on November 13, 2007, 01:59:10 PM
I think it's really great to see the resurgence.  #^ #^ #^

With engines like Randy's, Brodak's, Fox's and now some new Enya's, not to mention 4S C/L engines, we're being offered one heck of a choice!!  ~^ ~^

Just out of curiosity, is OS offering ANY C/L engine now?  ???

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: pat king on November 13, 2007, 08:01:31 PM
Actually the problem is how can you buy a new one when all your old ones are not worn out ,and show no signs of ever wearing out.
dennis
What about we fools who own a dozen of them?   y1 You are right they seem to last forever.
That's really good to hear - as far as I know, the only other .35 being made is the Fox.

In 1965 I bought one of the first series - came with two heads and three square venturis. I installed it in a green-box Nobler and with one homemade .015 head shim, it ran as well as any Fox.

I ran about a gallon of Superfuel through it before I flew it. Then, I made around 100 flights in the Nobler.

Then I put it in a Flite Streak and flew it for a season.

I still have the engine and it's almost broken in now!!  LL~ LL~ LL~

The second series 5224 had a round venturi.

Bob Z.


I can guarantee that they are broken in before they get to 200 hours.  LL~

Pat
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Jim Oliver on November 14, 2007, 07:21:30 AM
Guys,
Do these new/old Enya engines require high castor fuel?
Thanks,
Jim
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Bob Zambelli on November 14, 2007, 07:48:47 AM
Jim wrote:
"Guys,Do these new/old Enya engines require high castor fuel?
Thanks, Jim"

Although this might be better placed in the "engine" section, I will add my 2 cents.

Here in the northeast, we are running a variety of older engines using Powermaster 10-22 or Brodak 10-23, both having 50/50 castor/synthetic. Engines like older ENYAs, OSs, Coxs, K&Bs and of course the good old Fox .35. Ringed, lapped, ABC, ABN, AAN, AAC - you name it.

Some of the engines that I personally run include my OK Cub .049, a K&B .09, some Fox .35s and of course my Atwood Triumph .49. They ALL get the same castor/synthetic blend.
Countless people have told me that one MUST run as high as 30% ALL CASTOR or the engines would be ruined. Countless people were wrong.
All my engines still run flawlessly with no sign of lubricant related wear.
I experienced one major glow engine failure in the last ten years - a Surpass .40 that I bought used and then ran for years. The crankpin broke but there was NO SIGN of the usual lubricant related  failure issues.

I bought a very old Fox .35 that was not only well used but covered in baked-on castor oil. Even the exhaust port was partially blocked and the piston was black. As an experiment, I started running it on the Powermaster blend. It started out marginal and after around ten tanks of fuel became one of my best running Foxes. The outside still looks the same but the deposits burned out of the exhaust port and the piston color actually lightend up.

Bob Z.


Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: Dan Labine on November 14, 2007, 09:30:03 AM
Ordered one on the net yesterday. I received an e-mail this morning that it was shipped. Isn't the internet amazing.. The world is so much smaller now.
Title: Re: Enya Model 5224 engines being produced again!
Post by: George on November 14, 2007, 10:03:01 AM
Guys,
Do these new/old Enya engines require high castor fuel?
Thanks,
Jim

The original instructions for my 5224 .29 calls for 20% castor. Most people used all-castor back then. I would keep it at least half castor...just a personal preference. No need for extra high oil content. I would go with Bob Z.'s recommendations.

Many of us use the many-short-run/complete cool-down on a bench type break-in...Enya says just run it rich for awhile. Your choice.

I would read the instructions, perhaps they are using different metals now. Here are a couple of pics so guys will know what we are discussing:

George