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Title: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 12, 2012, 11:54:42 AM
Here is my real new plane. If you cant tell it is based on the Matrix trilogy...
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 12, 2012, 11:55:41 AM
"Follow the white rabbit"
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 12, 2012, 11:56:35 AM
"I should have ate the blue pill"

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Bill Little on April 12, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
 :o  :o  :o

That is so much better than the small pics I saw at Huntersville!

Can't wait to see it in person.

Bill
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PerttiMe on April 12, 2012, 12:14:29 PM
It looks different. I like different  y1

What airframe design is it? Tempest adjusted a bit?
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Doug Moon on April 12, 2012, 12:25:56 PM
I am going to steal that 4 blader!

The plane looks awesome, BRO!

BAD ASS!!!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on April 12, 2012, 12:38:59 PM
Some cats just got way to much talent!  And I love what you did with the canopy....very neat. H^^
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 12, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
It looks different. I like different  y1

What airframe design is it? Tempest adjusted a bit?

Yes, it started its life as my backup plane for the worlds in 2010 (another Dreadnought). The plane was started in early 09' but it got put on hold for a while. When I started working on it again I changed the shape of the rudder and used a different canopy (yes like the Tempest). It is a Randy design with a few small changes, mainly cosmetic. It was in silver during last year's Nats, if that gives you any idea of how long it took me to paint it...

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 12, 2012, 12:47:17 PM
:o  :o  :o

That is so much better than the small pics I saw at Huntersville!

Can't wait to see it in person.

Bill

Thanks Bill.

The only thing is that you will probably have to come to the Nats to see it. It is strictly a Nats plane. That is unless you and Aaron come down to visit. :)
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Steve Fitton on April 12, 2012, 12:51:45 PM
Looks incredible. Can't wait to see it flying!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Bill Little on April 12, 2012, 01:06:29 PM
Thanks Bill.

The only thing is that you will probably have to come to the Nats to see it. It is strictly a Nats plane. That is unless you and Aaron come down to visit. :)

HI Little Buddy!

I would love nothing more than to come down and spend a weekend with you and Pops.  Right now I am not physically up to it, but watch out when I get my strength back!  LL~ LL~ LL~

Best of luck with the Matrix!
Bill
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Dick Pacini on April 12, 2012, 01:06:52 PM
It would be sinful to fly that plane and risk it.  It should be in a museum where paying viewers could gaze upon the excellence in detail and workmanship. BW@

BTW, how many characters are there?
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 12, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
It would be sinful to fly that plane and risk it.  It should be in a museum where paying viewers could gaze upon the excellence in detail and workmanship. BW@

BTW, how many characters are there?

Thanks and I have no idea. probably over 1000 I would guess.

And if you were referring to movie characters, all the main ones are on there hidden in the code. Along with My wife, kids, and I plus a few quotes from the movie. There is a ton of stuff to find in the code, I think people will have fun trying...

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Doug Moon on April 12, 2012, 01:27:02 PM
Thanks and I have no idea. probably over 1000 I would guess.

...There is a ton of stuff to find in the code...
Derek

Is there one that reads "Doug Moon is Awesome!"
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 12, 2012, 01:29:41 PM
Is there one that reads "Doug Moon is Awesome!"

Something like that... ;)
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: SteveMoon on April 12, 2012, 01:35:41 PM
AWESOME!! How hard was it to get the dust bits perfectly in place
before taking the close up pics?  ~> LL~
Can't wait to see it at the Nats.

Later, Steve
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Paul Taylor on April 12, 2012, 01:42:40 PM
WOW!!!!

Now that is just KEWL !!!!!!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Gene O'Keefe on April 12, 2012, 01:46:18 PM
Engine and prop "specs" please !
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: EddyR on April 12, 2012, 02:05:43 PM
Nice Derek  To bad it has that crack under the canopy on the left side ~^
 See you in three weeks
Ed
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Russ Danneman on April 12, 2012, 02:20:56 PM
YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME , I DONT KNOW HOW YOU DO IT!!! THAT IS AWESOME y1 rd
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Randy Powell on April 12, 2012, 02:29:26 PM
It is certainly a work of art. Clever idea and very well executed. Some guys just have talent. Get used to it.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Wynn Robins on April 12, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
MR ANDERSON!!!! 

looks fantastic Mr Barry ....

I gotta go

Tank - I need a line......
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Eric Viglione on April 12, 2012, 03:05:42 PM
Holy Helvetica Batman!

I don't think anyone will be stealing that paint scheme anytime soon... looks like an incredible amount of work with all that code lettering.

Don't show it to you-know-who, or you may get stuck building a copy for him and have to do that paint job again   LL~

Seriously awesome job Derek, if it flies as good as it looks, we're all in trouble!  :o

EricV
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: RandySmith on April 12, 2012, 03:10:05 PM
is it going to Hover ????

 ;D
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: jim welch on April 12, 2012, 03:13:19 PM
Derek you can rent that thing out for show and tell at any local rehab center and make some bucks before the nats...that things Dope!!!!!!   Jimmy
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Matt Colan on April 12, 2012, 04:16:02 PM
Derek, that is simply AMAZING! I can look at it over and over again, and I can't get tired of looking at it!! BAD ASS!!!!!

How much does it weigh?
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Larry Cunningham on April 12, 2012, 05:43:44 PM
Frodo.. err

I mean NEO!

LIVES!!!

;->

L.

"Free will is a golden thread running through the frozen matrix of fixed events." -Robert A. Heinlein
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: proparc on April 12, 2012, 05:57:31 PM
But Derek,

Can it take on an "Agent"?
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on April 12, 2012, 06:04:15 PM
WOW!  (you can quote me on that)

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 12, 2012, 06:23:22 PM
I know why you're here, Derek. I know what you've been doing... why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer. You're looking for him I know because I was once looking for the same thing. And when he found me, he told me I wasn't really looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It's the question that drives us, Derek. It's the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did.


Should I paint the Wheel pants ?


The answer is out there, Derek, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Les McDonald on April 12, 2012, 06:31:14 PM
Absolutely stunning, a great canopy and cockpit really gives it character.
How do you find the time? I can't believe you have a day job!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Randy Powell on April 12, 2012, 08:04:08 PM
We know what Derek does at night now, and he ain't out at the bar.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Randy Cuberly on April 12, 2012, 08:23:43 PM
WOW!
What a work of art.
Just goes to prove that some people have entirely too much time on their hands...and way too much talent!!

Randy Cuberly  y1
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Mike Palko on April 12, 2012, 08:26:44 PM
I hope to see this in person some day. Far to much going on for the pictures to give credit for. Awesome and certainly outside the box!

This is the airplane with the "fly by wire" technology, right? It has the on board battery and servo driven by the preprogrammed computer to get one step closer to the perfect pattern?! I've been hearing about it and noticed the circuitry inside the cockpit.

The four blader looks like a Gator prop?

Mike
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 12, 2012, 09:06:46 PM
" How do you find the time? "

HAHAH Les - that model was 3 years in the making ! I was talking to Derek last year and he was thinking is might have been finished for Last years nats!

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Steve Hines on April 12, 2012, 09:12:26 PM
Now that is a design!!! What a great job. I just did not think you would put that much time in to your first electric. hahaha

Steve
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: wwwarbird on April 12, 2012, 09:14:01 PM
 Whoah, craaaaazy amount of paint detail going on here Derek, you must have a helluva handle on the mask cutter machine!

 Very impressive, but the canopy is on backwards! :## ;D
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 12, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Unlike the mental projections of other crews, who usually wear dark clothes and sunglasses, Switch wore white clothes and yellow, translucent sunglasses.

Switch and Apoc are portrayed as front-line soldiers while inside the Matrix, acting as "point" and "rear guard" in their escape from the Agents and police and providing covering fire as they make their way into the sewers. Switch's weapon of choice is a Browning Hi-Power pistol. Switch also pokes fun at Mouse, calling him "the digital pimp". Switch was killed when her mind was forcibly pulled from the Matrix by Cypher, who betrayed the crew in an attempt to return to the Matrix as a permanent resident himself. Cypher also killed Apoc and Dozer before being killed by Tank, the ship's Operator.

Switch........ Cypher..

Incredible detail :

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/pjaussie/100_1942.jpg)

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: RandySmith on April 12, 2012, 09:53:10 PM
Whoah, craaaaazy amount of paint detail going on here Derek, you must have a helluva handle on the mask cutter machine!

 Very impressive, but the canopy is on backwards! :## ;D

How do you know it is on backwards????/  you have not seen which direction it flies yet..... ;D

R
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 12, 2012, 10:53:46 PM
Im up to 18 words of code I can understand..

Either Movie references, names - and of course your kids!

Im yet to find P.J   ???


I heard there are over 50 words or clues...
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 04:24:15 AM
Thanks everyone for all the nice comments. This plane has been a challenge to say the least, but now that it is done it was well worth it. It did take a lot of time and having a 50-60 hour a week job and 3 kids did not speed up the process. Fortunately for me I have a very understanding wife, she knew that every time that I left to work on it (because it is all done at my dad's shop) that she would not see me for 4 to 6 hours. There were countless 4 to 6 hour sessions...

The Matrix, or Nebuchadnezzar as I like to call it has a PA 65 with a 13 inch Mejzlik 3 blade pitched at 4.2 to 4.4 depending on the conditions. I use Randy's high torque 65 pipe on this plane (65 quiet pipe on the Dreadnought). It currently has 65 foot lines with a Kaz hard point handle. I think I am using about 6.5 oz of 10 percent Sig Champion fuel for a 7 min flight. Lap times are around 5.2 to 5.3, and the plane weighs 70 oz. :( I was not thrilled about the weight but it does fly well.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 04:28:12 AM
I hope to see this in person some day. Far to much going on for the pictures to give credit for. Awesome and certainly outside the box!

This is the airplane with the "fly by wire" technology, right? It has the on board battery and servo driven by the preprogrammed computer to get one step closer to the perfect pattern?! I've been hearing about it and noticed the circuitry inside the cockpit.

The four blader looks like a Gator prop?

Mike

Shhhhhhhhhhh!!! Don't give away my secrets.  LL~

The 4 blade is an Either prop. Like a fool I did not look at the spinner when I painted it and managed to paint a 4 blade spinner. My normal setup uses a 3 blade...Notice the finished pictures have a silver 3 blade spinner. I have painted a new one now...

The instrument panel is a couple old memory sticks that I had, they do have pictures of the Matrix under construction saved on them. ;)
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 04:46:42 AM
These pictures will give you an idea of how the code was done. I started as you see with a fair amount of code over the orange. I then sprayed a very light coat of black and then added some more code. I sprayed another very light coat of black and added some more code. Then I blackened the whole area with the final coat of black paint. When all those little pieces are picked out (which takes longer than anything else, and you never get them all on the first try) it reveals different levels of code. Some are very faint and look like they are deep in the background and some are very bold. There are so many ideas that i had in my head that never made it to the plane. I was going to cover the bottom with the hover pads like the ships on the movie and then have blue lightning bolts all over the bottom. It just never happened...

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 04:49:23 AM
Here is one idea that I decided to leave off because of weight issues. The lights and lipo (YES I SAID LIPO) battery would have added another 1.6 oz to the plane. Now PJ did find some very light weight lights that I could use I may still look into that...

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
One more picture of the nose...Fitz said it looks like it needs a Kleenex...

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 04:52:55 AM
But Derek,

Can it take on an "Agent"?

We will see, I am sure there will be some "agents" at the Nats who would like to see it lose. Neo never loses he is "The One" 8)

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 04:53:43 AM
AWESOME!! How hard was it to get the dust bits perfectly in place
before taking the close up pics?  ~> LL~
Can't wait to see it at the Nats.

Later, Steve

I know I need to learn to dust things off BEFORE I take the pictures. LOL

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 04:54:40 AM
Absolutely stunning, a great canopy and cockpit really gives it character.
How do you find the time? I can't believe you have a day job!

Thanks Les!!!

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 05:16:48 AM
My favorite scene in all the movies. This was in the second Matrix movie.

The Architect - Hello, Neo.

Neo - Who are you?

The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.

Neo - Why am I here?

The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.

Neo  - You haven't answered my question.

The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.
 

The Architect - The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the sixth version.


Neo: There are only two possible explanations: either no one told me, or no one knows.

The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.


Neo - Choice. The problem is choice.



The Architect - The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo - The Oracle.

The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo - This is about Zion.

The Architect - You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo  - Bull****.


The Architect - Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.


The Architect - The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo - You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive.

The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world.
 

The Architect - It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the one. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-a-vis, love.


Neo - Trinity.

The Architect - Apropos, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.

Neo - No!

The Architect - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning, and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.


The Architect - Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.

Neo  - If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.

The Architect - We won't.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Clint Ormosen on April 13, 2012, 10:21:24 AM
Yup. That's one of my favorite movie exchanges, too.

Awesome plane, Derek!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 10:23:44 AM
Thanks Clint!

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Doug Moon on April 13, 2012, 10:29:40 AM
These pictures will give you an idea of how the code was done. I started as you see with a fair amount of code over the orange. I then sprayed a very light coat of black and then added some more code. I sprayed another very light coat of black and added some more code. Then I blackened the whole area with the final coat of black paint. When all those little pieces are picked out (which takes longer than anything else, and you never get them all on the first try) it reveals different levels of code. Some are very faint and look like they are deep in the background and some are very bold. There are so many ideas that i had in my head that never made it to the plane. I was going to cover the bottom with the hover pads like the ships on the movie and then have blue lightning bolts all over the bottom. It just never happened...

Derek

That is very cool, working backwards so to speak.  The first code you put down actually comes out as the brightest and looks to be sitting right on top of all the other code.  

Very cool process!  Very Innovative!  
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: proparc on April 13, 2012, 12:02:33 PM
On a serious note, this is without doubt, one of the absolute greatest paint jobs on a control line stunt ship I have ever seen.

Amazing.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Larry Cunningham on April 13, 2012, 12:08:53 PM
Perhaps TOO nice.. to fly. You can't risk it. You might damage the thing..

It is an awesome and unique paint scheme.

Time to start on the eMatrix Derek.

L.

"To believe in something, and not to live it, is dishonest." -Ghandi
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on April 13, 2012, 02:16:39 PM
"There are so many ideas that i had in my head that never made it to the plane."

Your head is positively, certifyably, CRAZY like scrambled eggs! Incredibly detailed, super cockpit. and the pilot can see out of it too!

I think that it should be a 25 pointer on the 20 scale. Now go out and win the Nats with it!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Will Davis on April 13, 2012, 02:32:45 PM
Wow  !!! looks great
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 02:33:34 PM
"There are so many ideas that i had in my head that never made it to the plane."

Your head is positively, certifyably, CRAZY like scrambled eggs! Incredibly detailed, super cockpit. and the pilot can see out of it too!

I think that it should be a 25 pointer on the 20 scale. Now go out and win the Nats with it!

I probably should have my head examined.....

Thanks Tom!! I will do my best!

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 02:34:30 PM
On a serious note, this is without doubt, one of the absolute greatest paint jobs on a control line stunt ship I have ever seen.

Amazing.

Thank you VERY MUCH Milton!!!!

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 02:37:59 PM
Perhaps TOO nice.. to fly. You can't risk it. You might damage the thing..

It is an awesome and unique paint scheme.

Time to start on the eMatrix Derek.

L.

"To believe in something, and not to live it, is dishonest." -Ghandi

That is a good idea Larry except I am NEVER doing this plane again. There will be no Matrix Reloaded, Matrix Revolutions, or Matrix Revisited. I will move on to my next project, a solid red plane with my AMA numbers on it. LOL LL~
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 02:38:47 PM
Wow  !!! looks great

Thanks Will,

See you in a few weeks.

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Howard Rush on April 13, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
If that canopy problem
Goes beyond stunt,
Recall it's brown in the back,
Yellow in front.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Clint Ormosen on April 13, 2012, 05:32:12 PM
If that canopy problem
Goes beyond stunt,
Recall it's brown in the back,
Yellow in front.


Gross.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Paul Walker on April 13, 2012, 06:07:17 PM
. It was in silver during last year's Nats, if that gives you any idea of how long it took me to paint it...

Derek
[/quote]

Did Howard Rush give you pointers on proper paint aging
 and lessons on scheduling a proper paint job?
  Very nice work, btw.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 13, 2012, 06:31:33 PM
Derek .. I have a bad feeling about this based on your preferred movie quote..

" The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. "


 ;D

-------------------


Now the question is : Who was the first to build a stunt ship with a quote from the Matrix on it?

 ???

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 13, 2012, 06:49:16 PM
There are hundred's of Maxtrix quotes I like.. one of the more interesting ones I like :

" Welcome to the desert of the real.. "

When Morpheus explains what the Matrix is to Neo, he uses the phrase, "Welcome to the desert of the real." This is a paraphrase from Chapter One of Jean Baudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation," the book where Neo stashes his illegal discs. In Chapter One - The Precession of Simulacra, page one, paragraph 2, the section reads "It is the real, and not the map, whose vestiges persist here and there in the deserts that are no longer those of the Empire, but ours. The desert of the real itself."

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/pjaussie/simulacra.jpg)
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Phil Hawkins on April 13, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
This is off the hook!

I am a huge fan of the movies (along with my 16 yr old son) and this plane is just incredible!

You have really captured the feel of The Matrix... Love the techno cockpit...

Outstanding Two Thumbs way up!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 07:45:14 PM
There are hundred's of Maxtrix quotes I like.. one of the more interesting ones I like :

" Welcome to the desert of the real.. "

When Morpheus explains what the Matrix is to Neo, he uses the phrase, "Welcome to the desert of the real." This is a paraphrase from Chapter One of Jean Baudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation," the book where Neo stashes his illegal discs. In Chapter One - The Precession of Simulacra, page one, paragraph 2, the section reads "It is the real, and not the map, whose vestiges persist here and there in the deserts that are no longer those of the Empire, but ours. The desert of the real itself."

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/pjaussie/simulacra.jpg)

WOW!! I never noticed this before and I have seen this movie hundreds of times. Not that I knew of Jean Baudrillard's literary works... I bow down to you my friend.

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 07:53:32 PM

Did Howard Rush give you pointers on proper paint aging
 and lessons on scheduling a proper paint job?
  Very nice work, btw.

No, I am perfectly capable of procrastinating on my own... I like my planes to age like fine wine before I finish them ;D

Thank you Paul!!!

Derek

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 07:58:26 PM
This is off the hook!

I am a huge fan of the movies (along with my 16 yr old son) and this plane is just incredible!

You have really captured the feel of The Matrix... Love the techno cockpit...

Outstanding Two Thumbs way up!

Thank you Phil, as we speak I am trying to explain the movies to my son (13)....he just got it! Now he understands what the plane means.

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 08:02:01 PM
Derek .. I have a bad feeling about this based on your preferred movie quote..

" The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. "


 ;D

-------------------


Now the question is : Who was the first to build a stunt ship with a quote from the Matrix on it?

 ???



I know, I know, figures you would catch on to this. I have had this same thought myself....

First the wheel pants now this. Give me a break PJ... ;)

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 13, 2012, 08:08:16 PM
If that canopy problem
Goes beyond stunt,
Recall it's brown in the back,
Yellow in front.


The nose is green
and the letters are many,
leave it to Howard
to be filled with envy.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Howard Rush on April 13, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
The Matrix is lovely,
It's made quite a hit,
But your rhyming performance
Is not worth a darn.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 14, 2012, 12:11:15 AM
The cockpits on backwards
and the wheel pants need paint
Its looking damn good
But for that little complaint.






Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 14, 2012, 12:12:12 AM

It has lots of code
But no paint on the Pants
Win this years Nats?
Could be a slim chance..
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 14, 2012, 06:39:17 AM
The Matrix is lovely,
It's made quite a hit,
But your rhyming performance
Is not worth a darn.

 LL~ LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Steve Fitton on April 14, 2012, 07:02:59 AM

Now the question is : Who was the first to build a stunt ship with a quote from the Matrix on it?

 ???



I thought PWs plane at the Nats last year had a Matrix quote on the wingtip.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Larry Cunningham on April 14, 2012, 07:20:38 AM
I seem to remember that the "green waterfall" screen saver was actually a hex dump of the Apple II ROM or such.. (or was that the Terminator?) Any problems with compatibility with "other" CL Stunt ships?? Eg, do you sometimes see little non-ASCII characters thrown in to perfectly innocent "text", or similiar Mac artifacts? ;->

I just hope Neo is a decent stunt pilot. (Cookie crashed my favorite Shogun.)

L.

"Ah, mind-taxing time again, is it?" -Marvin

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Eric Viglione on April 14, 2012, 07:53:56 AM
So here post’s Derek, broken hearted,
Howard dis’s his rhyme,
But at least his PA never self-started
They said; To Muncie with painted pants you must bring it!
And that’s when PJ stepped in a big pile of sh… Shaving cream, be nice and clean
Shave every day and you'll always look keen!


Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 14, 2012, 09:42:19 AM
Larry, The actual movie code used for the Matrix was created specifically for it, using mirrored Japanese chars' , latin and numerials.

Your correct in that all the shots through the Terminator's vision in the original 1984 movie shows a dump of the ROM assembler code for the Apple II operation system.  There is a way to access it, but I can not recall ..


Steve : Dont think your right.... Know your right :)

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 14, 2012, 11:38:07 AM
I think Paul's said..."Don't think you can, Know you can."

The Matrix Quote is..."Don't think you are, know you are."

At least I think it is...

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: john e. holliday on April 14, 2012, 11:49:15 AM
Well what ever the code is, it is different and should get a lot of attention.   Now go break a prop and win the NATS. mw~
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 14, 2012, 05:58:44 PM
Derek..

Paul has : Dont think you are know you are ..
And your correct that is the quote..

In the context : You;'re faster than this..........

Paul also has ;
Do you Believe it now ?

Which technically .. if you want to nit pick, isnt the quote..
Roof top Scene :
Morpheus : Do you believe it now Trinity?
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Randy Powell on April 14, 2012, 08:12:44 PM
You know you guys are going to pump Derek's ego up so much that he will be afraid to fly the thing.

After all, he is The One.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Doug Moon on April 15, 2012, 10:05:43 AM
You know you guys are going to pump Derek's ego up so much that he will be afraid to fly the thing.....


Good.................. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Paul Walker on April 15, 2012, 03:08:00 PM


The Matrix Quote is..."Don't think you are, know you are."

At least I think it is...

Derek
[/quote]


Yes, that's the one. I have had that on the last 3 planes. I didn't think anyone knew!

Paul
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Howard Rush on April 15, 2012, 05:52:20 PM
I knew, and I know I am.  After all, I'm with the Jive Combat Team. 
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 16, 2012, 08:03:52 AM
Howard : Playing Semantics :

Shouldnt it be :
Change to :
I knew , and I know I knew, after all Im with the Jive combat team.


if you look into the purpose of the expression : Dont think you are, Know you are.

So the question for you must be :
Who knew and how do they know they knew.


 
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 16, 2012, 08:26:26 AM
Here is another one that I like.

"There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 16, 2012, 08:30:51 AM
Another exchange that I am fond of...

Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
 Neo: What truth?
Spoon boy: There is no spoon.
Neo:  There is no spoon?
Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Howard Rush on April 16, 2012, 09:42:22 AM
Howard : Playing Semantics :

Shouldnt it be :
Change to :
I knew , and I know I knew, after all Im with the Jive combat team.


if you look into the purpose of the expression : Dont think you are, Know you are.

So the question for you must be :
Who knew and how do they know they knew.

No.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: proparc on April 16, 2012, 09:44:54 AM
Derek,

When your plane is on the flight line, will it “take over the other planes form”? How will the judges know which plane is which?

Will the score you get “be for you and you only”?  And, not to shared with anyone else. How will we know if you won?

I didn’t want to mention this but, what’s to prevent you from “uploading” a combined Walker, Fitzgerald, Hernandez, Buck program. Not fair to the other competitors!

When they are pull-testing your plane, are you going to tell them that “you knew they were going to that” but you chose to allow it anyway?

I sincerely hope that you are not going to tell the other flyers that, “appearance judging gives us purpose”.

Last but not least, please, please do not go up to Dave Fitzgerald and tell him that second place is inevitable-why do you resist!!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 16, 2012, 09:49:40 AM
Derek,

When your plane is on the flight line, will it “take over the other planes form”? How will the judges know which plane is which?

Will the score you get “be for you and you only”?  And, not to shared with anyone else. How will we know if you won?

I didn’t want to mention this but, what’s to prevent you from “uploading” a combined Walker, Fitzgerald, Hernandez, Buck program. Not fair to the other competitors!

When they are pull-testing your plane, are you going to tell them that “you knew they were going to that” but you chose to allow it anyway?

I sincerely hope that you are not going to tell the other flyers that, “appearance judging gives us purpose”.

Last but not least, please, please do not go up to Dave Fitzgerald and tell him that second place is inevitable-why do you resist!!


GREAT STUFF Milton!!!!! LL~

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Randy Powell on April 16, 2012, 09:55:46 AM
Yes, Mr. Anderson.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 16, 2012, 09:59:15 AM
Yes, Mr. Anderson.

My name is...NEO! 8)

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: proparc on April 16, 2012, 11:37:36 AM
While I am extremely impressed with Derek's ship. I am VERY concerned about his actual Nats experience. I was just imagining some of the things that could happen to him such as:

Bill Rich doesn’t seem trust him, Derek went up to him and said “here, let me have a good look at you-my, how you’ve changed”!

The guy Derek pounded into sixth place and who lost a chance at the Walker Cup flyoffs, He went up to him and said “here, have a cookie, and you’ll be right as rain”. “You’ll roll up your lines, remove the excess fuel from you tank, and when your done, you won’t remember anything us this ever happened”.

Derek is in big trouble. The other 4 Walker Cup flyers are ganging up on him. What did he do? I don’t know, he yelled out something to the effect of “ the superior pullouts, the hyper accurate intersections-SURELY YOU MOST KNOW!!

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 16, 2012, 11:44:08 AM
I guess if I get surrounded by agents, I will have to do my "superman thing" and get the hell out of there.

Derek (The one) Barry ;)
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: proparc on April 16, 2012, 12:54:22 PM
Hmmm, I need to go to Netflix and rent this one to see what ya'll are talking about. I don't remember much about it.  Loved the men in black and the blues brothers with lots of guns and great acrobatics. Almnost as good as CLPA stuff. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

Got's to rent all three of them if your going to hang with this thread. Going down pretty heavy here.  LL~
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Garf on April 16, 2012, 03:04:27 PM
I tried to research Dreadnought and found this:
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Steve Fitton on April 16, 2012, 06:52:42 PM
I tried to research Dreadnought and found this:

I used an older version of google to look up Dreadnought and this is all I found:

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: RandySmith on April 16, 2012, 07:11:53 PM
I used an older version of google to look up Dreadnought and this is all I found:



This is a pretty common picture of what you see when you google  DREADNOUGHT
  Geezeee  you guys have some pretty  lame   search engines   ;D

R
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Steve Helmick on April 16, 2012, 07:47:15 PM
I don't know anything about any Matrix movies...I thought they were a small Toyota. But the paint job is very cool, even if I don't understand it. The cowl scoop shape is extremely nice.  y1 Steve
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Mike Keville on April 16, 2012, 07:51:38 PM
I don't know anything about any Matrix movies...

Same here.  Watched one once...for about an hour.  Couldn't make any sense out of anything they were trying to say.  (But then I'm an old fart.)

Nonetheless, Derek's model is an awesome example of workmanship.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 16, 2012, 08:16:41 PM
The original Matrix movie is considered my many to be comfortably inside the Top 20 in many lists.

Alongside Shawshank redemption and Shindlers List.

Here is a quick Storyline courtesy of IMDB

Matrix (1999 )

Thomas A. Anderson is a man living two lives. By day he is an average computer programmer and by night a hacker known as Neo. Neo has always questioned his reality, but the truth is far beyond his imagination. Neo finds himself targeted by the police when he is contacted by Morpheus, a legendary computer hacker branded a terrorist by the government. Morpheus awakens Neo to the real world, a ravaged wasteland where most of humanity have been captured by a race of machines that live off of the humans' body heat and electrochemical energy and who imprison their minds within an artificial reality known as the Matrix, which is how we currently see the drudgery of modern day life.  As a rebel against the machines, Neo must return to the Matrix and confront the agents: super-powerful computer programs devoted to snuffing out Neo and the entire human rebellion.

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: dale gleason on April 16, 2012, 08:41:50 PM

"If it ain't a Martin, it ain't a Dreadnaught".
 C. Prompt
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Mike Keville on April 16, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
The "Shawshank Redemption" is easily understood.  The "Matrix" stuff is not.  Sorry, but I just don't get it.

Superb model, nonetheless.

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: RandySmith on April 16, 2012, 09:33:08 PM
"If it ain't a Martin, it ain't a Dreadnaught".
 C. Prompt

It s a Dreadn O ught  Dale  not a Dreadn A ught   ;D ;D ;D

Besides several Guitar companies make really Great Sounding Dreadnaughts besides Martin, I have several here.....plus Martins

Regards
Randy
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: john e. holliday on April 17, 2012, 09:45:14 AM
You guys have left out one important factor in all this mess.   The sixth man has stated he will not be at VSC any more as he is going for the NATS,  Team Trials and the Worlds.   I truly hope he does it,  just to show the kids what work and perserveirance can do. H^^
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Doug Moon on April 17, 2012, 10:13:20 AM
Who is the sixth man?
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: john e. holliday on April 17, 2012, 10:14:06 AM
Look at last years NATS results. H^^
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 17, 2012, 10:37:31 AM
You guys have left out one important factor in all this mess.   The sixth man has stated he will not be at VSC any more as he is going for the NATS,  Team Trials and the Worlds.   I truly hope he does it,  just to show the kids what work and perserveirance can do. H^^

Tell him to bring it on! The "kids" are ready... 8)

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 17, 2012, 12:32:32 PM
or trying to get ready........

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Doug Moon on April 17, 2012, 01:20:35 PM
or trying to get ready........



NO.....

We ARE ready.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: proparc on April 17, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
NO.....

We ARE ready.

Their you go-the attitude of a Champion!!!  You would make Bob Lampione proud with that statement.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Randy Powell on April 17, 2012, 03:00:50 PM
Mike,

The Matrix is easily understood ... you just have to be under 60.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Mike Keville on April 17, 2012, 04:28:22 PM
<chuckle>  Well, that explains it.  That chance passed 12 years ago.   LL~
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Mark Scarborough on April 17, 2012, 04:52:37 PM
Mike,

The Matrix is easily understood ... you just have to be under 60.
On a totally unrelated but tangental topic Randy,, On Book to of Honor Harrington series,, ( in 8 days reading time,, kinda slow reading lately)
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Randy Powell on April 17, 2012, 06:55:58 PM
Off Topic-----

Mark,

Killer series. On Basilisk Station got me hooked.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Paul Wescott on April 17, 2012, 09:07:42 PM
Off Topic-----

Mark,

Killer series. On Basilisk Station got me hooked.


It's a totally killer series.  And Looong too which is surprising considering the quality of the writing.  The only thing missing is that in addition to being a baseball junkie, martial arts master, and sometime full-scale sailplane pilot, Honor Harrington should also be a control-line flyer too.   Including Navy Carrier of course...


Paul
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Mark Scarborough on April 17, 2012, 09:24:39 PM
wow common threads revealed,,
first it was the whole "Sig Sauer " discovery,,

now I find that there is a love of science fiction! specifically Weber,,, ( though I grew up with Ander Norton, Isaac Asimov, Rad Bradbury all before I was 14,,,)
I read the Bolo series,, at least all i can find,, then Randy was telling me about the Honor Harrington series,, THEN I discovered my sister , who is a SciFy Junkie, has the whole series,,, so now almost through book two,, with three waiting,,
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Steve Helmick on April 17, 2012, 11:21:06 PM
Read "Mission of Gravity". It's not about Powell Stunt or Scarborough Stunt.  LL~
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 18, 2012, 07:46:44 AM
Doug.. you might be ready..
 
Some of us are not...  ;D

But we will be ready in 2013..

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: John Leidle on April 18, 2012, 09:31:08 AM
 Randy,, I now understand why I didnt understand Matrix.
  john
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: dale gleason on April 18, 2012, 11:44:11 AM
There's quite a plethora of verbiage on this thread, much of which is nonsensical to many. Sooo, I thought I would toss in something off-topic, misspelled, off the wall and irrelevant. 

And Randy knew exactly what it was. This forum is truly a formidable think-tank.

dg :)
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: RandySmith on April 18, 2012, 05:25:23 PM
There's quite a plethora of verbiage on this thread, much of which is nonsensical to many. Sooo, I thought I would toss in something off-topic, misspelled, off the wall and irrelevant.  

And Randy knew exactly what it was. This forum is truly a formidable think-tank.

dg :)


 LL~  yep !!    ;D

 ;D <------ was just messing with dale
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: billbyles on April 18, 2012, 05:56:18 PM
There's quite a plethora of verbiage on this thread, much of which is nonsensical to many. Sooo, I thought I would toss in something off-topic, misspelled, off the wall and irrelevant. 

And Randy knew exactly what it was. This forum is truly a formidable think-tank.

dg :)

Both "Dreadnought" and "Dreadnaught" are correct spellings & mean the same thing.  When I was helping Frank Sanders build the Dreadnought Hawker Sea Fury for Reno racing in 1983 an aeronautical engineer working for McDonnell Douglas in Long Beach at the time named John McGuire came up with the name just about the time I was painting the airplane.  A race car lettering/striping guy named Larry Fator did all of the lettering on the big airplane and it has been "Dreadnought" for the past 29 years.  The color scheme (metallic silver with red trim) is one that Hawker used on its prototype airplane. 
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: RandySmith on April 18, 2012, 07:25:19 PM
Both "Dreadnought" and "Dreadnaught" are correct spellings & mean the same thing.  When I was helping Frank Sanders build the Dreadnought Hawker Sea Fury for Reno racing in 1983 an aeronautical engineer working for McDonnell Douglas in Long Beach at the time named John McGuire came up with the name just about the time I was painting the airplane.  A race car lettering/striping guy named Larry Fator did all of the lettering on the big airplane and it has been "Dreadnought" for the past 29 years.  The color scheme (metallic silver with red trim) is one that Hawker used on its prototype airplane.  


Hi Bill
of course I was just yanking Dale's chain,, and I knew exactly what he was saying,,  Dreadnought was a British battle ship many decades ago, a large Guitar, and  an airplane, maybe even more things have been named dreadnought over the past 100 years...

The correct Spelling for mine is Dreadnought.....  I don't remember any Dreadnoughts in the  MATRIX   ;D ;D ;D


Maybe they need a 4th Matrix movie , and it needs to have a Dreadnought in it ???
Regards
Randy
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: PJ Rowland on April 19, 2012, 09:03:54 PM
I like the Dread-E-Nought.

Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: RandySmith on April 19, 2012, 10:10:33 PM
I like the Dread-E-Nought.



-E-  is evil , you saw what the machine did with it in the Matrix  !!!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Derek Barry on April 20, 2012, 04:45:27 AM
I like the Dread-E-Nought.



I tried to use the Dread-E-Nought but I kept having motor stoppages and my Ice Lite 100 kept smoking then my Plettenberg Orbit kept losing the shaft, so the Matrix ate it and spat out the charred remains of the battery... >:D

Derek
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Steve Fitton on April 20, 2012, 07:10:32 AM
"Smoking Ice Lite 100's" sounds like a new menthol cigarette!
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Bradley Walker on June 19, 2013, 08:37:41 AM
This is so bad assssss...
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Howard Rush on June 19, 2013, 01:17:13 PM
... an aeronautical engineer... came up with the name just about the time I was painting the airplane.

Not the sort of person one would trust with spelling.
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: Steve Helmick on June 19, 2013, 02:22:47 PM
Not the sort of person one would trust with spelling.

Indeed. But it could have been worse, like "Breadnot".  D>K Steve
Title: Re: Enter the Matrix
Post by: billbyles on June 19, 2013, 02:30:52 PM
Not the sort of person one would trust with spelling.

Of course, since I'm a mechanical engineer you can certainly "trust" (trust me...) MY spelling.  That and my Webster's dicshunalary.