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Title: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Alexey Gorbunov on August 05, 2016, 03:58:29 PM
Guys.  I have Enya FA-30. This engine will be enough for Bill Vulcan or Ares?
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Alexey Gorbunov on August 05, 2016, 05:25:29 PM
OMG....Oh. My head is stupid .. Enya... Of course, Saito.. Excuse mua  mw~ H^^
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Brett Buck on August 06, 2016, 11:34:55 AM
Guys.  I have Enya FA-30. This engine will be enough for Bill Vulcan or Ares?

  Probably enough power, but it will very likely be *massively noseheavy*.

    Brett

 
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Alexey Gorbunov on August 06, 2016, 11:58:08 AM
Brett, this massively tail heavy. Or not? :!
Saito FA-30S weight: 9.2oz
Aero tiger .36 weight: 11oz

However, thank you. Design work started. Building too.
I want to try Geodetic wing.

Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: RandySmith on August 06, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
Brett, this massively tail heavy. Or not? :!
Saito FA-30S weight: 9.2oz
Aero tiger .36 weight: 11oz

However, thank you. Design work started. Building too.
I want to try Geodetic wing.



Hi Alexey

An Aero Tiger   weighs   7.9 ounces
and a Saito weigh much more than the Aero Tiger  by a  long shot

A PA 40 side EX  only weighs 10.2  and puts out more power than a ST 60



Randy
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Brett Buck on August 06, 2016, 05:56:26 PM
Brett, this massively tail heavy. Or not? :!
Saito FA-30S weight: 9.2oz
Aero tiger .36 weight: 11oz

   Huh?  I don't think so.

    Brett
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Chris_Rud on August 06, 2016, 07:47:44 PM
Brett, this massively tail heavy. Or not? :!
Saito FA-30S weight: 9.2oz
Aero tiger .36 weight: 11oz

However, thank you. Design work started. Building too.
I want to try Geodetic wing.



My lighten PA 65 doesn't even weigh 11 oz. no way an aero tiger is that much.
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Alexey Gorbunov on August 06, 2016, 08:31:34 PM
Hi Alexey

An Aero Tiger   weighs   7.9 ounces
and a Saito weigh much more than the Aero Tiger  by a  long shot

A PA 40 side EX  only weighs 10.2  and puts out more power than a ST 60



Randy

Hi, Randy, thank you. I did not know about the weight of Aero Tiger.
But the power more than a ST60 will be overkill for this small plane. Bill wrote in the article about 40 engine he has too much vibration.
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: RandySmith on August 06, 2016, 09:26:29 PM
Hi, Randy, thank you. I did not know about the weight of Aero Tiger.
But the power more than a ST60 will be overkill for this small plane. Bill wrote in the article about 40 engine he has too much vibration.

I said The PA 40 has more power than a ST 60 , not the Aero Tiger.
The Aero Tiger  is what Bill W  runs in his small planes, like the Vulcan, and the Ares , The Aero Tiger is very very smooth engine,

The PA 40 is too large to put in a Vulcan, I only mentioned it because it is light and very powerful, It also does NOT vibrate much, it is one of the smoothest 40 out there, Billy W  even talked about how smooth it ran with little vibration.

And Yes an Aero Tiger 36 is  perfect  for a Vulcan or  Ares size  plane. Hence the reason that Bill Werwage uses them in his small planes

Regards
Randy
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Bill Little on August 07, 2016, 07:06:05 AM
Hi Alex,

Under Bill's advice, I put an Aero Tiger .36 in my I-beam Vulcan.  I talked with Randy and run a Bolly 11-4 prop.  My oldest son built Billy's '59 Ares and used a Magnum .36 XLS IIA (the small square head version).  Both models fly great!  They are two of the very best Classic designs.

Use the Aero Tiger if you can get one, and you will not be disappointed!

Bill
Title: Re: Engine for BW Vulcan
Post by: Brett Buck on August 07, 2016, 02:33:02 PM
Hi, Randy, thank you. I did not know about the weight of Aero Tiger.
But the power more than a ST60 will be overkill for this small plane. Bill wrote in the article about 40 engine he has too much vibration.

    Oh, goodness,  the Aero-Tiger is probably best 4-2 break engine ever made (only competition is the Retro 60 and the Rustler-Merco 40) and perfect for the Vulcan and similar Classic airplanes. It will provide much better power than a Saito 30 and almost certainly less vibration.

    Brett