Electric retracts for RSM Shark 45?

[Brent Williams]

Retracts definitely have documented historical provenance in the "classic era".  Gordan Delaney was using retracts as far back as 1966 with his "Too Much" twin.

Using retracts on a Shark 45 is a completely separate matter, however.

"Too Much" info: http://www.clstunt.com/htdocs/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=348105&mesg_id=348105&page=4&topic_page=1

[M Spencer]

SIMPLE ! .

Build a Too Much ! 

[Dennis Moritz]

It wasn't a gotcha at the NATs. I asked your honest opinion. Brett. You were fair. I had no problem with your reaction. I liked it actually. It was informational. Start of a dialogue.

When you @#$% me off at times I express it. Keith too.  

Simple. From what I have observed Internal combustion engines flying around in U C are less reliable and often need more fussing with than electric systems that are designed and put together by those who know how to do it. Follow Mike's or Bob's directions putting an electric system together and you will be fighting way less problems. IC for various reasons has more bugs. Say that to most folks they agree. You don't seem to. I thought your rejoinder was intense and over the top. Not the first time you have sounded that way to me. Frustrating. I said so. Keith has a tone in reply that grates me as well. Sometimes. He comments on what he perceives to be my attitude I comment on his. So what.

Alright. Brett. You respect Danny and Mike's abilities in this hobby/sport. Many times I'm reporting stuff I've seen them do. Often I'm reporting troubleshooting I've done with Danny. Behind the scenes stuff. What I say true to those experiences. Accurate to that.

I have the skills I have. I am honest about it. Probably skills similar to many who read here. A useful midpoint perspective. Things look differently to me than to you. Partly because of where I'm at in terms of skills in this hobby.  Partly because of the approaches of the folks I know - who get stuff to work - differ from yours. You express how it looks to you. I express how it looks to me. You strongly believe and state what your beliefs are, how it looks to you. Expect me to do the same. By this time I'm sure you do expect that.


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[Chris McMillin]

While I'm waiting for the weather to break so I can paint my recent projects, I've decided to start building my RSM Shark 45. It will be powered by a trusty ST 60. Just for fun I'd like to install retracts. All of the retracts that I own from my R/C Pattern and Sport Scale days appear to be too heavy (with all components weighed) to be practical for stunt. I have noticed at the R/C field fellows flying these foamie ARF scale models with electric retracts that seem to work very well. I'd plan on using the 2.4 radio option to not only cycle the gear, but also for a one time throttle cut allowed by  the rules.So here are the questions....Anybody here have experience with the current crop of electric retracts and can make a recommendation?  Secondly, because of the lack of space in the nose area, the Shark MIGHT have to be built as a tail dragger.  Would it still be allowed to fly in "Classic" as a tail dragger? Thanks, for any light you can shed on my questions......PhillySkip

Hi Skip,
Build it like you want, enter it in what you want. If I were Classic ED I'd let it fly. Taildraggers are okay, there is precident. Jerry McMillin built one in '69. Retracts are okay, there is precident for them too... It's just will someone do it and fly it and claim Gordan Delaney and Harold Price had it, so could've one of my design in era.
I like your idea and would love to see it. Retracts are known and Bob Whitely and Dave Sabon, Bob Hunt too are good to contact.
Classic is liberal and should stay that way, we need contestants anyway.
Chris...

[Skip Chernoff]

Chris I can't wait to get started. I'm going to order the retracts tonight. Maybe it's just me but I always thought the Shark was one great looking airplane. I just took a look at the link about the "Too Much" and came away really impressed. That was one hell of a project for that time frame.
 Anyway thanks for the encouragement. PhillySkip

[Chris McMillin]

You know you can make that retract system a hybrid, Skip.
There are nice, light mechanical nose wheel units that just need a tiny servo. Are you buying E-Flite mains?
Chris...