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Offline Cody bishop

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Electric help
« on: October 09, 2017, 01:55:22 PM »
I am thinking of building a electric brodak peacemaker roughly how much will it cost and where should I buy what I need for the electric conversion I have only flew glow and have no knowledge of this use of electric is there a control line electric for idiots that I can read any help would be appreciated

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Re: Electric help
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 02:46:24 PM »
Read the "All Amped Up" forum here... It has a wealth of info.
I would suggest just buying a "package" from either Brodak (probably best since the kit is from them anyway, and Dennis is SUPER HELPFUL), or RSM for the first E plane you do.
After that, you will have an idea of what you do like and don't like, and you can piece together your system on your own for the second plane.

You'll never have to worry about fuel proofing your plane, or the covering peeling. And no wipe down after flying.
Flipside is that LiPo's should be WELL RESPECTED and treated like a loaded gun. There is always some slight risk of fire.

My E Oriental-

Oriental ARF with mods to the LG area and cowl, and improved controls.
Battery- 4S Thunder Power 2100- $30 on sale (I will never buy anything else, they are a superior product)
Motor- Exceed RC Rocket 3020 (about 4.5oz) $20
ESC- 50A from Eric Rule at RSM (could have gotten by with a 30A, and been lighter and cheaper, a lot cheaper)$50 ($20 for a generic 30A ESC)
Timer- KR $50 worth every penny, in my opinion
Prop- 10x5 Xoar $6
Vented Spinner from HK $4

Hope that helps,
Target
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Re: Electric help
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 05:28:25 PM »
Brodak has a book on electric flight for about $10.00. An already put together system is a way too. After you learn building and converting any CL or RC plane is easy.  :)


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Re: Electric help
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 06:30:17 PM »
Read the "All Amped Up" forum here... It has a wealth of info.
I would suggest just buying a "package" from either Brodak (probably best since the kit is from them anyway, and Dennis is SUPER HELPFUL), or RSM for the first E plane you do.
After that, you will have an idea of what you do like and don't like, and you can piece together your system on your own for the second plane.

You'll never have to worry about fuel proofing your plane, or the covering peeling. And no wipe down after flying.
Flipside is that LiPo's should be WELL RESPECTED and treated like a loaded gun. There is always some slight risk of fire.

My E Oriental-



Oriental ARF with mods to the LG area and cowl, and improved controls.
Battery- 4S Thunder Power 2100- $30 on sale (I will never buy anything else, they are a superior product)
Motor- Exceed RC Rocket 3020 (about 4.5oz) $20
ESC- 50A from Eric Rule at RSM (could have gotten by with a 30A, and been lighter and cheaper, a lot cheaper)$50 ($20 for a generic 30A ESC)
Timer- KR $50 worth every penny, in my opinion
Prop- 10x5 Xoar $6
Vented Spinner from HK $4

Hope that helps,
Target
The only changes I would make to the above set up is to use a Castle ESC (Phoenix 45/Ice Lite 50) and Hubin timer.  I've used the Xoar props and like them, APC and the APC clones from Hobby King work very well also. 

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Re: Electric help
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 06:55:48 PM »
One wrinkle in getting into electric is that sooner or later you do need to learn how to solder.  Also in the list of stuff above no mention of a charger was made.  Starting out:  a good choice is Hobby King  Imax B5 @ $25 + shipping:         https://hobbyking.com/en_us/imax-b6-50w-5a-charger-discharger-1-6-cells-genuine.html?___store=en_us

I have the KR timer.   It is great!  Works with a cheep speed controller and is easy to set up.
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Re: Electric help
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 08:38:25 PM »

EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT ELECTRIC POWERED FLIGHT
An E-Book by Ed Anderson


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/electric-training-102/7100376-everything-you-want-know-about-electric-flight.html

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Re: Electric help
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 01:27:06 PM »
One wrinkle in getting into electric is that sooner or later you do need to learn how to solder.  Also in the list of stuff above no mention of a charger was made.  Starting out:  a good choice is Hobby King  Imax B5 @ $25 + shipping:         https://hobbyking.com/en_us/imax-b6-50w-5a-charger-discharger-1-6-cells-genuine.html?___store=en_us

I have the KR timer.   It is great!  Works with a cheep speed controller and is easy to set up.




John I am already very good at soldering I solder at work 1-3 hours on and off a day and I have been doing that for 27 years so that should be no problem

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Re: Electric help
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2017, 01:30:33 PM »
That plane would fly good with an LA25 and you'll save a ton of money over electric even if you buy one new. On certain size planes it's difficult to shoe horn an electric system in place on about 400 to 500 square inch wing size. Personally I wouldn't go electric unless it's a serious competition plane or you have noise restrictions.

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The reason I am putting electric in one plane is because I will be using that one in stunt next year because that is the only way to be competitive in stunt all my other planes will stay glow fuel

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Re: Electric help
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2017, 01:51:49 PM »
Cody

There is a lot to learn to go electrickery

I learned a lot from reading Brodak and RSMs description of their different turn key set ups...and the current total package costs

Then here on SH is the forum with different set ups and help for a particular plane: motor, ESC, timer, battery combo

If and when I do play electrickery I plan on a ARF and turn key system....BUT I sport fly...you indicated competition

There are already many "been there done that" guys to copy

I actually screwed up IMO and went old school when I came back to CL ( Fox/Johnson/Veco/K&b)...then soon found the joy of easy more modernized engines and setups.... mostly OS and Magnum

The only reason I consider electric is the ability to control run / flight time

Just a side thought...

$60 Rugged Stunt Trainer
$50 OS LA 25.... 2.5 Oz per flight  10% 22% 50/50

Same plane needs a $100~ $125 +/- turn key electric system.... multiple batteries ups the cost a bit...a very good charger can be amortized over the life of the hobby...BUT an initial cash out lay that IMO is necessary

I am not anti electron... but I do get a part of my FUN from the sight, sound, smell of a good engine run that is repatable

One of my personal resistances to electrik is having another set of knowledge's to keep in a feeble older mind... and yet more props to have to keep balanced and track of

just throwing out a bunch of my thinking to consider
"A good scare teaches more than good advice"

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