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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Derek Barry on May 29, 2010, 12:52:43 PM
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Finally Done! I am gluing the flaps and elevators on right now. I hope to have it in the air in a few days!
Hope you like the pictures.
Derek
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havin to do one pic at a time
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One more
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Very nice. I always like the patriotic paints schemes.
What do you use for topcoat and clear, dope or auto ?
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Absolutely BEAUTIFUL derek!!!! Looks like a winner to me! Good luck with it at the Worlds!
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Hey Derek, Great job on the world plane brother. Seems like it takes forever when your building one you really want right. If that bird fly's as good as it looks man the boys on the other side of the globe are in trouble! Best of luck trimming and getting ready for the BIG one. Keep me posted on how she fly's. Scott Bolton ;D
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That is horrendous and terrible. What is wrong with you son? Where are the stars? Also only three colors? LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ Derek, in reality you have outdone yourself. I love it. After you win the Worlds I will send all my planes to you for finishing. VD~Anyway if it flies as well as it looks like someone has already stated, you have a winner. H^^
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Excellent!A winner no matter who you are!!! LL~
How about a picture of it broke down for shipping? I am amazed at this take apart technology!
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Sweet!!!!! Looks great!
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Very nice, Derek.
A great job. ;D ;D
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This should be on a float in tomorrow's parade!
Thanks for sharing the pics - it's a beautiful looking plane.
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It turned out great Derek. Thanks for sharing all the pictures on this one. Good luck at the worlds.
Robert
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Very, Very nice Derek.....Now to wear the paint off it practicing!
Jim Pollock :o
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Very nice Derek.
It has the F2B "Look" and I can't thank you enough for installing a clear canopy and adding a little pilot to scare the crap out of.
I have always believed that WC planes need to be painted with a patriotic theme and your Dreadnought captures the emotion.
Now all you need to do is fly better than everyone else-------seems simple enough right?
Les McDonald
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Well,
It was simple enough for you Les! 3 times no less!!!!!!
Jim Pollock D>K H^^
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Thanks Derek!
I've been thinking about stripping and recovering my Crosswind # 2 and giving it the patriotic scheme - you just made my mind up for me, that thing is gorgeous!!!!!!!! Now, as said above, fly, fly, fly and go kick some, errrr, well, posterior!
Blessings,
Will
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Hey Jim------SIMPLE? There's no simple in stunt!
Luck, crying, stomach pains yes, but never simple.
Les
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Derek,
Like Les said. It has the looks, the pilot to guide you and it is patriotic. Now just a few hundred flights and you will have a great showing. All the best to you and the whole team!
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Go get 'em Derek!
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Thank you all for all of you're comments. I had hoped to fly it yesterday but mother nature decided otherwise. I did finish getting it all together, so here are a few more pictures.
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Here is one of the bottom, and the last picture is for my good buddy Brett! ;)
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Very nice Derek.
It has the F2B "Look" and I can't thank you enough for installing a clear canopy and adding a little pilot to scare the crap out of.
I have always believed that WC planes need to be painted with a patriotic theme and your Dreadnought captures the emotion.
Now all you need to do is fly better than everyone else-------seems simple enough right?
Les McDonald
Thank you Les. All I need now is a blue shirt with stars ;)
Thank you for sharing all of you're experiences with all of us. I really enjoyed reading it. I am very proud to be on the team and I hope that I can represent you all well.
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Very nice. I always like the patriotic paints schemes.
What do you use for topcoat and clear, dope or auto ?
DuPont 480S for final clear.
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Excellent!A winner no matter who you are!!! LL~
How about a picture of it broke down for shipping? I am amazed at this take apart technology!
I will get on that. I will post you some pictures soon.
Thanks
Derek
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Very impressive weapon Derek!
Best of luck in Hungary!
Kind Regards,
Claudio H^^
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Looks very nice, Derek. Good luck to you and the team.
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Derek,
Looks great. Love the color scheme. If it handles as good as I saw you fly at KOI, its a winner.
All the best.
Roger
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Here is one of the bottom, and the last picture is for my good buddy Brett! ;)
Enjoy it while it lasts, boy! Remember that the next time we meet. I'll bring the sandpaper.
BTW, I am glad to see you built in that big steel rod down the middle, it will keep the fuselage straight.
Brett
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BTW, I am glad to see you built in that big steel rod down the middle, it will keep the fuselage straight.
Brett
It only adds 280 oz. I will send you one if you like!
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I put the first 3 flights on the plane yesterday. The last flight was a full pattern. It is a little tail heavy but I kinda saw that coming. I added 1/2 oz of tip weight and it probably needs a little more. Over all it is a good plane and I think I will have it trimmed in a few more flying sessions.
Thanks everyone, for all of you're support!
Derek
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Just seen the latest pics and it is still gorgeous. The best one is with the young model sitting behind it. Is she Grandpa's favorite? H^^
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Here is one of the bottom, and the last picture is for my good buddy Brett! ;)
OK, I gotta ask.
What's up with the .04 under the stab ?
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Derek - Sounds like Brett would like to help you remove a little of that tail weight... Hey Brett, got any 80 grit??? VD~
EricV
It is a little tail heavy but I kinda saw that coming...
Remember that the next time we meet. I'll bring the sandpaper.
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OK, I gotta ask.
What's up with the .04 under the stab ?
Darn kids these days, have no respect for their elders, that's what it means! If I had a lawn I would chase him off of it.
Brett
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OK, I gotta ask.
What's up with the .04 under the stab ?
I completely crushed Brett at the team trials by a wopping .04
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Very nice plane Derek. It reminds me of the plane you took to Sweeden. Maybe you will get the same results...!!
I am also sure it is "just fine " like it is.
Good luck to you, Orestes, Bill R, and David!
Bring home the good hardware!
Paul Walker
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Thanks Paul! 8)
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Gee Derek,
I'll be some of that extra tail weight came from the hunks of wood you used fairing the fuselage into the rudder!
Jim Pollock H^^
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Gee Derek,
I'll be some of that extra tail weight came from the hunks of wood you used fairing the fuselage into the rudder!
Jim Pollock H^^
I think it is from the 6 extra bolts, blind nuts, and washers. Plus the plywood bulkheads.
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I think it is from the 6 extra bolts, blind nuts, and washers. Plus the plywood bulkheads.
That may not be all that much of a liability. I think it's important to beef up the area around the stab mount anyway (removable hardware notwithstanding) and the weight is not much of an issue on these airplanes. Having to build in what amounts to a clamp to hold the tail on also ensures it's going to be pretty sturdy. Even a little bit stiffer is better and it may cost you a few ounces at most.
Brett
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That may not be all that much of a liability. I think it's important to beef up the area around the stab mount anyway (removable hardware notwithstanding) and the weight is not much of an issue on these airplanes. Having to build in what amounts to a clamp to hold the tail on also ensures it's going to be pretty sturdy. Even a little bit stiffer is better and it may cost you a few ounces at most.
Brett
I agree, I feel that if anything the tail of this plane is more solid than previous planes that I have built. The extra weight is not that big of an issue. I will add some nose weight for now and possibly build a new lighter tail once the WC is over. I think 1/2 oz. or less of nose weight will do the trick. Like I said it is only a little heavy. (it had one hell of a corner those first couple flights) ;D
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Very nice Derek. A 20 pointer.
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Nice work derek.
I wish I could see it fly..... its certainly your style thats for sure !
I will watch and read this space for your results - must have flown well to make that team.
Cant wait till I come over to the USA again and catch up with you - once again a mighty fine job.
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I just wanted you guys to know that the plane flies great. I have 10 flights on it now and it is very close to being trimmed. I put two flights up in terrible wind just to check everything out. I am very happy with the plane and the take apart hardware.
This weekend I am getting together with Bill Rich (our newest team member) and a few others to get some serious practice in.
Thank you all for you're comments.
Derek Barry
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I just wanted you guys to know that the plane flies great. I have 10 flights on it now and it is very close to being trimmed. I put two flights up in terrible wind just to check everything out. I am very happy with the plane and the take apart hardware.
This weekend I am getting together with Bill Rich (our newest team member) and a few others to get some serious practice in.
Thank you all for you're comments.
Derek Barry
Bill Rich is on the team now?
Sounds like a winner Derek! Good luck at the worlds, bring home the trophy again for USA!
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Bill Rich is on the team now?
Sounds like a winner Derek! Good luck at the worlds, bring home the trophy again for USA!
Yes, a couple of weeks ago Billy said that he would not be able to make the trip this year. Brett had previous obligations so that made Bill the alternate. I it has been official for a couple weeks I did not realize that nobody had said anything yet.
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Yes, a couple of weeks ago Billy said that he would not be able to make the trip this year. Brett had previous obligations so that made Bill the alternate. I it has been official for a couple weeks I did not realize that nobody had said anything yet.
And for the record, I bailed out of my alternate duties (which I thought had a pretty good chance of becoming a real spot) last November when it became obvious that my work commitments were not going to permit me to properly prepare and probably not attend. Right now our launch is supposed to be July 30th, which means there's no way.
That's the beauty of having 15-20 world-class competitors - people can drop out and we still have a good chance.
Brett
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"" This weekend I am getting together with Bill Rich (our newest team member) and a few others to get some serious practice in.""
Its called Randy's 21st Annual Stunt Camp..... Look forward to seeing you, The new plane looks really good. I also found you 2 TSA straps that may work well on the box
Randy
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Thanks Randy, C-ya There!
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If Billy can't go, why did he even fly at the TT"s?
Jim Pollock
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Wotta team! Wotta team when (almost) half the team are old buds, and clubbies. And the engineer, designer is your ex-boss!
Have fun guys. I know you'll do us good!
Ward-O y1
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If Billy can't go, why did he even fly at the TT"s?
Jim Pollock
I am sure that when he tried and made the team that he was planning to go to the WC.
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AWSOME, they are both little beauties.
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DuPont 480S for final clear.
Did a little research and found that 480S is an acrylic lacquer. On a dope finish, why do you like this product vs staying with clear dope.
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Did a little research and found that 480S is an acrylic lacquer. On a dope finish, why do you like this product vs staying with clear dope.
First, it is a premixed clear, this makes it very easy to use.
The main reason is that I think it lays down better and dries harder and faster that clear dope. I can start buffing in 24 hrs if I want to. Also it handles the high humidity here in the south better than clear dope (no blushing).
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I am sure that Bill Rich will do a fine job. This gives him more recogonition that he has worked hard for and deserves.
Looks like we have a strong team.
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First, it is a premixed clear, this makes it very easy to use.
The main reason is that I think it lays down better and dries harder and faster that clear dope. I can start buffing in 24 hrs if I want to. Also it handles the high humidity here in the south better than clear dope (no blushing).
Premixed ?? You mean right out of the can, not even any thinner.
What about weight, being a lacquer I would think it might be similar to dope, and not like the 2-part auto clears which can get heavy if you are not careful. How many coats do you spray?
I like the idea about minimizing blushing, I have humid spraying conditions about 95% of the time..
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Premixed ?? You mean right out of the can, not even any thinner.
What about weight, being a lacquer I would think it might be similar to dope, and not like the 2-part auto clears which can get heavy if you are not careful. How many coats do you spray?
I like the idea about minimizing blushing, I have humid spraying conditions about 95% of the time..
Yep That's right, spray it right out of the can. Jimmy Welch turned me on to it, I love the stuff!
I normaly put two or three light coats of clear dope on first to seal the colors and do my sanding. I then follow with two good coats of the 480S. The 480S covers very well and gives a nice shine without buffing. The weight is very close or the same as dope. It may even save you some weight because it covers so well and lays down smooth (need less coats). The Evolution I used both the clear dope and the 480S. On the Dreadnought I only used the 480, trying to save some weight. I will probably add one more good coat after the WC and buff the plane out for next years Nats.
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You don't have to thin it, or retard it just spray it.It covers real nice in 2 coats and buffs out easily with anything from white, red, compound, toothpaste,(georgia clay),thats for Derek!It's ovious Derek and Dale got some shine on dem planes.Beautiful new stunt weapon....now get out and log some serious air time and confirm what we already know. Jimmy