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Offline mike londke

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Close Call!!!!
« on: September 20, 2016, 01:30:59 PM »
Wait for it....
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2016, 01:57:12 PM »
I saw this earlier today, pretty scarey stuff... I think the Endevour is the plane that came from behind and hit him. The Hot Stuff was a cool design, so is Endevour,, hopefully they decide to repair and return. The written description I saw was pretty much more intense, the video happens pretty fast,, VERY glad no one was seriously injured
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2016, 02:39:55 PM »
The pilot looked pretty cool about it.  It looked like a very sportsmanlike response to someone else's unforced error.
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 02:50:55 PM »
I am guessing he is probably not going to be so cool later once the adreniline wears off, but who knows,, he did handle it proffesionaly,, better than some of us do with our toy airplanes LOL
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 03:07:31 PM »
I am guessing he is probably not going to be so cool later once the adreniline wears off, but who knows,, he did handle it proffesionaly,, better than some of us do with our toy airplanes LOL

Well, I might have been running back to the other plane to beat the tar out of the other guy: he was definitely better than that.

It looks like the only news in print on the thing is the team's facebook page -- apparently both pilots got off with minor injuries.
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 03:44:44 PM »
That could have easily took his head off.

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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 04:39:39 PM »
Wow. After watching a few times, it looks like he's lucky to still have his hand.

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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 04:40:13 PM »
Where did this happen and when?
Watch it in slow motion. The port wing was two inches away from clipping the top of his head.
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 04:51:51 PM »
Reno air races,, Formula one Gold race
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 07:20:07 PM »
What was he doing, just sitting at the end of the runway with the motor running?

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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2016, 08:52:21 PM »
Video doesn't show the couple minutes prior. 1st person to run up to the plane after accident acknowledged that they received the pilot's call and they had put up the red caution flag. Pilot made a comment about others being responsible since they put the flag up. My guess is upon take off or landing that he had engine problems, if take off aborted it. Engine was acting sporadic, finally died and did not allow him to taxi off the runway.

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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2016, 09:33:16 PM »
 I just came across this video a few minutes ago on the Precious Metal site, there are a few more details explained there. Pretty damn scary but very lucky at the same time with just a broken hand. Now Thom has two trashed airplanes, first the Precious Metal fire and now the Hot Stuff incident. I hope they're able to come up with the re$ource$ to get them both back in the air.
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2016, 09:42:14 PM »
Hot Stuff and friend

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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2016, 10:19:36 PM »
I've actually made those racehorse starts in the Biplane Class at Reno and it can be a very sketchy procedure.

Air Racing used to be on the wide open fields in the olden days, a racehorse start was done on a mile square of grass. The airplanes were line abreast and were launched with the wave of a single flag. At Reno the first races were at a dirt field open like a field of grass in the olden days but when they went to Stead Air Force Base when it closed and made available a paved public facility in which to hold the race, the airplanes that made the racehorse starts (F1, Biplane and T-6 then) were staged 3 on the main runway and 4 on the ramp along side the crowd line in the pits. After a few decades the safety of such an operation was thought to be minimal for the crowd so they started a stacked racehorse start to keep airplanes off of the ramp.

Now the airplanes are staged all on the main runway with differing positions as far as the rows. It looked as if the race in the video had two rows with three one behind the other, couldn't see the front row but there could've been 3 in the front row too. In F1 all rows are flagged off at once. Visibility directly ahead is very poor until the tail comes up.

In the Biplane Class we staged 3-2-3 to make sure we could see one another in the row just ahead and we were flagged off row at a time at 4 second intervals with a 4 and 8 second handicap. My airplane had bad visibility directly ahead but a little left and right of center was adequate even in the 3-point position and the 4 second individual row flag offs made a better interval time wise for one to see a potential hazard ahead.

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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2016, 06:27:51 AM »
This is from Hot Stuff's facebook page. Bear in mind that it will take awhile for everything to be sorted out. There were a number of people involved and the starting grid covers several hundred feet of runway.

It was too far away from my vantage point to really see much except Endeavor sitting on the runway obviously broken.


"Dear Race Fans,

WARNING, GRAPHIC CRASH FOOTAGE (And some foul language).

On September 18, 2016, during the Gold final start we experienced an accident involving our F1 racer, ‘Hot Stuff’ and a fellow competitor’s airplane.

We were number four on the starting grid, which was the middle inside position with three aircraft on the front row, one to our right and three behind. Upon running the engine up in anticipation of the start, about 20 seconds before the green flag drop, the engine was not running well enough for flight, as you can hear from the audio, never mind racing. I made the decision to shut the engine down to signal the starters to halt the starting process. The flagman on my row put his hands in an ‘X’ over his head, as our procedures prescribe, and I opened my canopy to make it clear I was out of the race and so everyone could see me. The alternate airplane was signaled to taxi on to the runway to replace my entry. I felt confident the communications had reached the appropriate people and waited for personnel to push me off the runway.

However, much to my surprise, I saw the flagman run out on to the runway waving his hands over his head as if something was wrong. The aircraft to my right started rolling and a few seconds later the number six and eight aircraft flew by me on either side. All I could do at that point was hope the number seven (center) aircraft would clear me on the centerline to my right.

The impact was violent and loud. His left leading edge shaved off the top several inches from my vertical and skimmed the turtle-deck without touching until it impacted my right hand holding up the canopy, at well over sixty miles an hour. The left landing gear hit the top of the gull-wing center-section, blowing a hole in the top skin and impacted the rear face of the front spar so hard that it broke the landing gear clean off his airplane. The propeller sliced three evenly spaced gashes about mid span of my right wing, about a foot apart. The right landing gear sheared the wing off just short of the right wingtip. The impact spun me around nearly 180º, like a teacup ride at warp eight. The other aircraft came to rest several hundred feet in front of me with a folded gear, damaged wing and sheared propeller facing the other way as well. That pilot received no injuries.

Three things immediately came to mind. Make yourself as small as possible to avoid further injury until things stop moving. Once the aircraft came to rest, DON’T MOVE! And since I was not on fire, wait for help to arrive. I knew my hand was busted and was not looking forward to removing my glove. But it was more important to make sure I had not been struck in the head or hurt my neck or back. After assessing my situation I realized I did not have any further injuries and proceeded to shut the switches off and assist with un-strapping myself from the wreckage. Help was there very quickly, including my flagman.

Then I proceeded to ask the condition of the other pilot and how this had happened. The video should speak for itself. My next concern was to let my crew know I was OK. The one thing any spectator looks for in an accident are the correct number of flight suits walking around the wreckage after any crash, I made sure I did. Everything else can be fixed. Reno EMS quickly patched me up with a splint and had me walking back to my pit in no time. They really are good at what they do.

Hot Stuff suffered severe damage. It’ll be several months before we figure out what to do with her. I’m not the slightest bit upset over the accident. I, in fact, consider myself a very lucky man. Another four feet to the left and I would have been minced meat. Literally dodging a bullet. A busted up hand is a small price to pay. I’ll take it. It’ll heal. Though it is difficult to type one-handed.

I’ve said many times before and I’ll say it again, there’s risk in everything we do. But the counterpart to that is reward. I choose to cross the street because the risk of crossing the street is worth the reward of getting to the other side. Same thing with air racing, I’ll be back. Of course there’ll be a review of procedures, how to prevent something like this from happening again and a thorough investigation. I’ve used up another of my nine lives, but why would you have nine unless you plan to use them?… We live, learn and race on.

Fly fast,

Thom Richard"
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2016, 07:26:08 AM »
Bad things seem to gravitate to people who set up selfies.
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Re: Close Call!!!!
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2016, 09:55:51 AM »
Looks like ground crew officials were a sleep.  Very lucky pilot.  So happy it wasn't worse.
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