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Title: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Don Hutchinson AMA5402 on October 21, 2017, 10:07:56 AM
I was recently perusing some of my files and kept looking at one airplane I had not done. A new drawing is now in the works! A few people know what it is, other than them, the first one that comes up with the right answer gets a copy of the files when I am finished. It may be a while as I am working slowly. There is a huge amount of measuring, calculating and decision making putting one of these on paper and old age makes for sore backs from bending over the board! However, based on past results, this one should be a good flyer and worth the wait!
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Gary Dowler on October 21, 2017, 11:58:14 AM
A Stunt capable corsair?
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Dan Berry on October 21, 2017, 01:03:48 PM
Brewster Buffalo
Although I'd like to see a Wildcat.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Sean McEntee on October 21, 2017, 01:59:32 PM
Don brought the drawings he had made so far to the pilots meeting at the team trials.

I’m excited 😁😁😁
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Dalton Hammett on October 21, 2017, 02:14:50 PM
Since you did the cub,  how about the L19 Bird dog ????
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on October 21, 2017, 03:20:55 PM
HURRICANE....PLEASE, PLEASE! H^^
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Sean McEntee on October 21, 2017, 03:37:00 PM
HURRICANE....PLEASE, PLEASE! H^^

Not trying to downplay Don’s work, because his drawings are great, but doing your own profile warbird wouldn’t be too tough.  Take a wing from one of his previous planes and change it up to look like what you want—a hurricane in Glens case.  From what I have seen, the construction among all of his warbirds are similar:  same airfoil, built-up fuselage and sheet balsa tail surfaces. One wouldn’t need to draw up complete plans, just enough to frame everything up

  I was going to convert one of his designs to something else, but this latest drawing beat me to it  :)
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Steve Kocher on October 21, 2017, 08:25:18 PM
Don,

Whatever it is, put me down for one.

Steve
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: wwwarbird on October 21, 2017, 09:21:05 PM
A Stunt capable corsair?

 Don's done the Corsair, with flaps even, and the plan also has variation options that include the F2G bubble top/corncob version.

 Hard to say what he's got up his sleeve here as he's already done all of the most desirable/obvious stuff. He's telling us it will be slow going but once Don decides on a design and get's that pencil going things usually happen pretty quickly. I'll bet it's not the Hurricane though because Don's focus has always been U.S. designs. I could see it being the F4F Wildcat just because it's one of the few WWII fighters he hasn't done. I don't recall a P-40 in Don's cache either? A BT-13 would be pretty cool to see, a design I've many times considered drawing up myself. Another obscure but very cool model would be the F3F bipe. But, if it's another multi-engine design...?
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Dan McEntee on October 21, 2017, 09:50:05 PM
Don's done the Corsair, with flaps even, and the plan also has variation options that include the F2G bubble top/corncob version.

 Hard to say what he's got up his sleeve here as he's already done all of the most desirable/obvious stuff. He's telling us it will be slow going but once Don decides on a design and get's that pencil going things usually happen pretty quickly. I'll bet it's not the Hurricane though because Don's focus has always been U.S. designs. I could see it being the F4F Wildcat just because it's one of the few WWII fighters he hasn't done. I don't recall a P-40 in Don's cache either? A BT-13 would be pretty cool to see, a design I've many times considered drawing up myself. Another obscure but very cool model would be the F3F bipe. But, if it's another multi-engine design...?

   Yup, he's done the P-40, which also depicts several varients. I used to be able to quote them all by memory but it's too late and I'm too tired! What ever it is, I'll get it!
   Thanks a lot Don!!!
    Dan McEntee
   
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Gary Dowler on October 22, 2017, 02:49:04 AM
I'd like to see a YP-37. It just epitomized everything a 30's pursuit ship should be
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Steve Lotz on October 22, 2017, 06:21:58 AM
Vought Vindicator
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: dave siegler on October 22, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
Pt 19 / pt 23 ?
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: wwwarbird on October 22, 2017, 09:22:35 AM
 The Wildcat would lend itself well as a semi-scale stunt design, with it's mid-wing layout it would make for an essentially "in-line" stunt model. Admittedly, the landing gear would be a bit tricky, but it could be done by simply spreading out the track width a bit from what would be scale. That's all I did way back on my PBY and it worked out very well.

 Any clues Don? Is it a single or a multi? AAF or Navy?
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: wwwarbird on October 22, 2017, 09:24:09 AM
Pt 19 / pt 23 ?

 Recently done by Don also.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Scott Richlen on October 22, 2017, 12:11:28 PM
How  about an F5F?
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Allan Perret on October 22, 2017, 07:24:35 PM
B-17 for 4 Norvell .061 and I'm all in..
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Randy Cuberly on October 22, 2017, 08:15:51 PM
B-17 for 4 Norvell .061 and I'm all in..

Me Too...Absolutely perfect!  Shades of Mr Walker in miniature!  It's the only thing that could convince me to hassle with 1/2 A's!

Further more, I actually have 4 of those things NIB!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Don Hutchinson AMA5402 on October 23, 2017, 01:55:11 PM
That was too easy! Dan Berry was the first to mention the Wildcat so he will get a copy as soon as I get the drawings into PDF files. It  is coming along fairly well but I am tweaking the airplane a bit more than I like to do to be sure it will fly well, but to the "casual observer" it will look real good! Will also have the FM2 rudder shown.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Allan Perret on October 23, 2017, 02:46:24 PM
Me Too...Absolutely perfect!  Shades of Mr Walker in miniature!  It's the only thing that could convince me to hassle with 1/2 A's!

Further more, I actually have 4 of those things NIB!

Randy Cuberly
I didn't really expect Don to bite on this one, but the good news is Pat Johnston did and is currently working on it [in his spare time].  He admitted he had personal interest for himself, but his will be e-power.  That's not enough of a challenge for me..
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Dan Berry on October 23, 2017, 05:07:21 PM
That was too easy! Dan Berry was the first to mention the Wildcat so he will get a copy as soon as I get the drawings into PDF files. It  is coming along fairly well but I am tweaking the airplane a bit more than I like to do to be sure it will fly well, but to the "casual observer" it will look real good! Will also have the FM2 rudder shown.

seriously?!
Sweet!
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Joe Gilbert on October 23, 2017, 05:31:20 PM
Dan ,I am happy for you, you must build that thing ,LA 46 and climb to the top of advanced class. Seriously man you are the perfect guy to get the plans, Dons airplanes are very good, Warbird ,profile and PA three plane bird.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Steve Kocher on October 23, 2017, 08:32:54 PM
Don,

Great choice.  Once you get the landing gears engineered, you can easily draw the F3F.

Steve
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Scott Richlen on October 24, 2017, 06:43:52 AM
Of course, the F5F wouldn't need any special considerations for designing complicated landing gear.... ;D

(The first, short-nosed version, of course...)
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: wwwarbird on October 24, 2017, 08:33:37 PM
Of course, the F5F wouldn't need any special considerations for designing complicated landing gear.... ;D

(The first, short-nosed version, of course...)

 Scott,

 Are you aware of Walter Umland's full fuse F5F Skyrocket offering? I tried to check but his site is currently down, if I recall correctly though it's based on the Jack Sheeks design.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: wwwarbird on October 24, 2017, 08:43:33 PM
I didn't really expect Don to bite on this one, but the good news is Pat Johnston did and is currently working on it [in his spare time].  He admitted he had personal interest for himself, but his will be e-power.  That's not enough of a challenge for me..

 When it's ready, why not just go with Pat's and redraw your own engine nacelles for IC? It'll be a profile so the change would be a cinch. All one would have to do is copy Pat's nacelle outline and then draw in the mounts for your IC engine of choice, easy peezy. Maybe Pat could even include this detail on his plans?
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: dennis lipsett on October 24, 2017, 09:06:15 PM
Scott,

 Are you aware of Walter Umland's full fuse F5F Skyrocket offering? I tried to check but his site is currently down, if I recall correctly though it's based on the Jack Sheeks design.
Walt never made a full kit of Jack Sheeks F5F it was a semi kit needing the gear, nacelles and canopy. To my knowledge only a few were made and I have one. It is beautiful but I'm getting too old to ever get around to it. If anyone is interested in one contact me and we will go from there.

Dennis
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Perry Rose on October 25, 2017, 05:51:18 AM
From Pat's plans.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Scott Richlen on October 25, 2017, 07:02:19 AM
Dennis:

I'm concerned that you say
Quote
I'm getting too old to ever get around to i

I checked your profile and I am 4 years younger than you, but I take about 5 years to build a plane.  So, does that make me too old too?   ;D
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: dennis lipsett on October 25, 2017, 11:42:34 AM
Dennis:

I'm concerned that you say
I checked your profile and I am 4 years younger than you, but I take about 5 years to build a plane.  So, does that make me too old too?   ;D

Yep,
If your like me it takes about 5 years to get to get around to it and awhile to build it. And then there are all those other ones that you have that you really would like to have ready to go. I don't have a 10 year plan.

Dennis
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Allan Perret on October 25, 2017, 12:03:53 PM
When it's ready, why not just go with Pat's and redraw your own engine nacelles for IC? It'll be a profile so the change would be a cinch. All one would have to do is copy Pat's nacelle outline and then draw in the mounts for your IC engine of choice, easy peezy. Maybe Pat could even include this detail on his plans?
That's what I was planning to do if Pat doesn't provide for both power options in his plan.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: wwwarbird on October 25, 2017, 06:56:53 PM
That's what I was planning to do if Pat doesn't provide for both power options in his plan.

 That'll be a fun build to watch, keep us posted Allan!
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Gerald Schamp on October 28, 2017, 04:27:23 PM
Don did the BT -13, I have them and its a cool plane, I like it because it is one of the few Warbirds that has a fixed landing gear. Easy paint schemes too. Might get a Saito .40.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Randy Cuberly on October 28, 2017, 04:42:10 PM
That's what I was planning to do if Pat doesn't provide for both power options in his plan.

Yeah Me Too!  If I can fit it in to the schedule!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: wwwarbird on October 28, 2017, 08:38:49 PM
Yeah Me Too!  If I can fit it in to the schedule!

Randy Cuberly

 I'll donate a brand new can of Brodak Olive Drab to the first one who shows us his ready-for-paint B-17.  S?P
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Allan Perret on November 21, 2017, 12:37:01 PM
I'll donate a brand new can of Brodak Olive Drab to the first one who shows us his ready-for-paint B-17.  S?P
It would be a whole lot easier for you to ship me the paint than me bring the B-17 to you.. ~>   We are in a holding pattern right now, Pats working on the plan.  I have decided to go with Pat's e-power recommendation because I don't have the time it would take to develop the 4 engine 1/2A package right now..  Pats last update is he will do a profile version 1st as a test bed for the e-power and then follow up with the full fuse..  He's a smart cookie.
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: Allan Perret on November 21, 2017, 12:39:26 PM
Hey Don: how about a Christmass special.  How much for a thumb drive with every one of your Warbird plans on it ?
Title: Re: Don's profile Warbird plans
Post by: wwwarbird on November 21, 2017, 06:37:16 PM
It would be a whole lot easier for you to ship me the paint than me bring the B-17 to you.. ~> 

 Yeah, that would be the plan.