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Dizzy spells...
« on: December 01, 2018, 01:29:45 PM »

  Guy's I am in my middle Seventies (77)  and dizzy ness is eating me up. Does anyone else have this same problem, and what are you doing for it?
  When I try to do some overhead stunts OH8 in particular, also flying inverted hurts too.  Sure could use some advice/suggestions as what to do..

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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2018, 04:28:31 PM »
For the past couple years, I have complained about disorientation doing vertical maneuvers.  I think I have worked around the problem by not looking directly up.  That means my reverse wingovers are not perfectly aligned over the top (were they ever?).   One of our club members brings a cane to poke into the ground during overheads.  This gives some measure of stability for just a second or two.

If it doesn't get any worse, then I will still be flying at age 90.

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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2018, 04:33:28 PM »

  Wow Ty, thanks for the help.. H^^ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2018, 04:46:50 PM »
Gil hows the blood pressure?  I've had a little of that at different times.  My new doc asked if I was getting dizzy sometimes....I take a low dose BP med and it was getting me too low.  She cut the dose in half and I think it's helped.  I may cut it to a quarter.  The old doc told me to just fight through it-I'd get used to it...?  Vertigo.

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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2018, 07:08:53 PM »
Definitely see a doc if it's in the budget.  Dizzy spells can mean trouble.  Ask if there's anything you can do about it, starting with exercise -- don't just let them give you pills and boot you out the door.
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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2018, 07:42:49 PM »
My aunt was getting dizzy spells and it was caused by some kind of particles forming in her inner ear.  My cousin would have her lie on her back with her head hanging over the edge of the bed and would then turn her head in some very specific directions.  This would allow the particles to move out of the inner ear area that caused the problems.  I know I haven't explained this quite correctly, but do see a good ENT guy.  Unfortunately, it seems the best way we find out how to fix these things is to meet someone who has gone through it.

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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2018, 09:06:16 PM »
This old man would get dizzy spells once in a while.  Yes it was blood pressure fluctuating.   Ever lay down in bed at bed time and feel like you had drank too much at the bar.  The doctor is getting me on doses of some kind to try and stabilize it.   He think mine is too high most of the time, but told him I taken my blood pressure when I got dizzy during the day and it was way low.  H e just grunted. Really I think not flying and exercise is my problem.   Ask some of the guys about me stumbling around in the circle when I fly. D>K 
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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2018, 02:06:03 PM »
I was in a bad motorcycle accident
During recovery I had bad vertigo
Inner ear fluids got badly scrambled by the head trauma...

My Neuro surgeon had me doing all these exercises

This has nothing to do with CL flying dizzy...but is a hint on how it all works and why

Epley Maneuver
If your vertigo comes from your left ear and side:

Sit on the edge of your bed. Turn your head 45 degrees to the left (not as far as your left shoulder). Place a pillow under you so when you lie down, it rests between your shoulders rather than under your head.
Quickly lie down on your back, with your head on the bed (still at the 45-degree angle). The pillow should be under your shoulders. Wait 30 seconds (for any vertigo to stop).
Turn your head halfway (90 degrees) to the right without raising it. Wait 30 seconds.
Turn your head and body on its side to the right, so you're looking at the floor. Wait 30 seconds.
Slowly sit up, but remain on the bed a few minutes.
If the vertigo comes from your right ear, reverse these instructions. Sit on your bed, turn your head 45 degrees to the right, and so on.
Do these movements three times before going to bed each night, until you've gone 24 hours without dizziness.


Semont Maneuver
This exercise is similar to the Epley maneuver, though not as popular in the United States. For dizziness from the left ear and side:

Sit on the edge of your bed. Turn your head 45 degrees to the right.
Quickly lie down on your left side. Stay there for 30 seconds.
Quickly move to lie down on the opposite end of your bed. Don't change the direction of your head. Keep it at a 45-degree angle and lie for 30 seconds. Look at the floor.
Return slowly to sitting and wait a few minutes.
Reverse these moves for the right ear.
Again, do these moves three times a day until you go 24 hours without vertigo.

Half-Somersault or Foster Maneuver
Some people find this maneuver easier to do:

Kneel down and look up at the ceiling for a few seconds.
Touch the floor with your head, tucking your chin so your head goes toward your knees. Wait for any vertigo to stop (about 30 seconds).
Turn your head in the direction of your affected ear (i.e. if you feel dizzy on your left side, turn to face your left elbow). Wait 30 seconds.
Quickly raise your head so it's level with your back while you're on all fours. Keep your head at that 45-degree angle. Wait 30 seconds.
Quickly raise your head so it's fully upright, but keep your head turned to the shoulder of the side you're working on. Then slowly stand up.
You may have to repeat this a few times for relief. After the first round, rest 15 minutes before trying a second time.

Brandt-Daroff Exercise
Here’s what you need to do for this exercise:
Start in an upright, seated position on your bed.
Tilt your head around a 45-degree angle away from the side causing your vertigo. Move into the lying position on one side with your nose pointed up.
Stay in this position for about 30 seconds or until the vertigo eases off, whichever is longer. Then move back to the seated position.
Repeat on the other side.
You should do these movements from three to five times in a session. You should have three sessions a day for up to 2 weeks, or until the vertigo is gone for 2 days.

Follow Up
For the rest of the day after doing any of these exercises, try not to tilt your head too far up or down. If you don't feel better after a week of trying these moves, talk to your doctor again, and ask her what she wants you to do next.


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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2018, 04:32:52 PM »
Sometimes allergies rear their heads.....
My MD suggested a Xertec in the morning and an Allerest at night.....I did so for a month or so and saw significant improvement.
If I feel dizziness creaping back, I take the pills.

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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2018, 05:19:02 PM »
My aunt was getting dizzy spells and it was caused by some kind of particles forming in her inner ear.  My cousin would have her lie on her back with her head hanging over the edge of the bed and would then turn her head in some very specific directions.  This would allow the particles to move out of the inner ear area that caused the problems.  I know I haven't explained this quite correctly, but do see a good ENT guy.  Unfortunately, it seems the best way we find out how to fix these things is to meet someone who has gone through it.

Scott, You are absolutely correct! It is called "Vertigo" and I had it a few years ago and that is exactly what my Dr. told me what to do. Mechlazine (sp?) is the drug prescribed to me.

Good luck, Jerry

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Re: Dizzy spells...
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2018, 05:58:57 PM »
Fredvon:

Thanks.  I think the Epley Maneuver is the one that my cousin did to help out his Mom.  Thanks for posting those.  I'm sure that some of the guys that try them will feel better.

But even if they don't work for you - hey, at least you tried.  Just because you haven't found a solution, doesn't mean there isn't one.  It only means that you haven't found it -   yet.


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