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Title: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Ted Fancher on November 29, 2010, 05:51:36 PM
Oh Dear. 

Five years ago I built my brand new #2 Grandson a Flite Streak Trainer complete with fancy paint job, etc. and installed a then NIB Norvel AME.15 in it.  It's hung on his bedroom wall since.  He's now approaching six and it's time to get him out to the field.  In addition, I'm supposed to be his "kindergarten show and tell" subject tomorrow morning...you know, the old man airplanes from tiny ones to 747s, etc.  So, I brought the Trainer home to shine it up and discovered the engine was stuck from sitting so long.  So, I took the plug out and put some air tool oil in it and went off to work at NASA.

Came home and fiddled with it until it seemed as loose as it was going to get since it is a very tight fit at the top.  OK, time to put the plug back in.

Oh Oh!  After only a modest attempt to secure it in the machinef aluminum button head the threads stripped drastically.  Oh, boy...now what.

Went on line and discovered that Norvel has gone the way of the Model T with no apparent source of parts.

I then thought of Stunt Hangar (and the other forum, of course, over at Len's Place).  You guys know everything.

So, does anybody have any old Norvel 15 head buttons they can live without?

Anybody have suggestion for repair?  I've heard people talk about threaded inserts that could be put in place.  Anybody had any experience with such an operation.

Help!

Thanks in advance.

Ted Fancher
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: PJ Rowland on November 29, 2010, 06:04:37 PM
"quote "
complete with fancy paint job, etc. and installed a then NIB Norvel AME.15 in it.  It's hung on his bedroom wall since.  He's now approaching six and it's time to get him out to the field.

I read with interest I thought it was going to end with - I had the plane out and put it on the garage floor ready to pack into the car when shareen...........

 LL~
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Tim Wescott on November 29, 2010, 06:17:43 PM
Google around, or search here - Norvel is back, but right now there's only some guy's email address to appeal to (supposedly there's a web site coming early next year).  I don't know if he'd have that particular part -- apparently a group of Russian modeler cum entrepreneurs bought out the product line and has found a production facility, and this guy is their North American dealer.  They're bringing production on line one motor at a time, so if they've got that one going then you're good to go.

Good luck -- I understand that's a good engine.
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Will Hinton on November 29, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
Ted,
Are you going to borrow a 747 to take along as well?
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Dan Berry on November 29, 2010, 06:31:47 PM
I would contact Bob Mattes and get a head made that will accept a Nelson plug.
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: bobsrc on November 29, 2010, 08:06:55 PM
Clarence Lee fixes stripped glow plug threads in heads.  He advertises in the classified sections of model airplane mags.  He has done a couple for me that have worked perfectly since.
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Mike Scholtes on November 29, 2010, 10:06:21 PM
More locally you could call Doug Galbraith up in Davis and see what he has available. He handles the Cyclon engines and Nelson heads and plugs for very high-zoot FF stuff and can either make it from scratch or tell you where to get it. Norvel engines are well known (not necessarily well liked) in the FF community.
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Kim Mortimore on November 29, 2010, 10:34:28 PM

I have emailed two local guys I know who have Norvel experience.  Will let you know if I get any bites.
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Dick Byron on November 30, 2010, 07:51:09 AM
Ted,
    Try MECOA They make plugs for most NORVEL engines.
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: John Stiles on November 30, 2010, 11:06:22 AM
"quote "
complete with fancy paint job, etc. and installed a then NIB Norvel AME.15 in it.  It's hung on his bedroom wall since.  He's now approaching six and it's time to get him out to the field.

I read with interest I thought it was going to end with - I had the plane out and put it on the garage floor ready to pack into the car when shareen...........

 LL~
Oh keeeeeraaaapppp........that reminded me of Ozzy Ozborne's affinity for yelling: SHARRRRONNNNNN! LL~
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Garf on November 30, 2010, 02:09:49 PM
Thread it 3/8" X 24 and use one of the old time adapters. I have a few.
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: rustler on November 30, 2010, 03:24:38 PM
Phew!! When I saw the heading I thought Shareen may have had a "blind spot" moment.
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: dave siegler on December 01, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
This guy says he has all the norvel parts....

Norvel engines and parts now back in production. The exclusive US distributor's email is klondike17@juno.com
Here is a price list. Prices for Norvel engines 0.15, 0.25, and 0.40 will be posted later

Item Part number Price
     
Norvel Big Mig 0.049 CL   $60.95
Norvel Big Mig 0.049 RC   $63.95
Norvel Big Mig 0.061CL   $69.95
Norvel Big Mig 0.061 RC   $72.95
Norvel Big Mig 0.074 RC   $84.95
Norvel Big Mig 0.15 RC   $89.00
Norvel Big Mig 0.25 RC   $95.00
Norvel AX-40 RC BB Revlite   $109.00
     
     
Crankcase 04-06 100108-01 $22.99
Crankcase 07 100108-02 $23.99
Crankcase 15 300002-03 $24.99
Crankcase 25 400108 $27.99
Crankcase 40 600002 $29.00
     
Crankshaft 04 100110-01 $18.95
Crankshaft 06 100110-03 $18.95
Crankshaft 07 100256-01 $19.95
Crankshaft 15 300110-03 $20.95
Crankshaft 25 400110 $22.95
Crankshaft 40 BB 600008   
     
Cylider/Piston assembly Big Mig 04 100406 $24.95
Cylider/Piston assembly Big Mig 06 100402 $27.95
Cylider/Piston assembly AME 06 (limited stock) 100401 $37.95
Cylider/Piston assembly Big Mig 07 100407 $29.95
Cylider/Piston assembly AME 15 301004 $35.95
Cylider/Piston assembly AME 25 401004-01 $37.95
     
Wristpin 04 100103 $3.95
Wristpin 06 100103-03 $3.95
Wristpin 07 110103 $3.95
Connecting rod 04 100109-01 $7.95
Connecting rod 06 100113 $7.95
Connecting rod 07 110109 $8.95
Head wrench 04-07 230131 $3.95
Head wrench 15-40 230132 $9.95
Glow plug 04-06 110138 $7.95
Glow plug 07 110158 $8.45
Standard glow plug 301158-01 $5.99
Head adaptor for std. glow plug 04-06 100148 $4.29
Head adaptor for std. glow plug 07 300001 $4.39
Head adaptor for std. glow plug 15 300207 $4.95
Cover plate 04-06 100100 $7.95
Cover  plate with a pressure fitting 04-06 101005 $12.95
Cover plate O-ring 04-06 300209 $3.29
Cover plate 07 100255 $8.29
Cover plate O-ring 07 100209 $3.29
Spring starter 102105 $6.95
Cylinder head gasket 04 (2) 100112 $3.29
Cylinder head gasket 06 (2) 100112-01 $3.29
Cylinder head gasket 07 (2) 100116 $3.49
Cylinder head gasket 15 (2) 300112 $3.89
Glow head gasket 04-06 (3) 100117 $2.99
Glow head gasket 07 (3) 101717 $2.99
Needle valve screw 04-25 120114 $8.95
Prop screw 04-06 100137 $2.50
Prop screw 07 100337 $2.50
Prop shaft 15 300324 $2.99
Prop spinner 04-06 100102 $4.95
Prop spinner 07 100302 $4.95
Prop hub 04-06 100124 $5.95
Prop hub 07 100124-01 $5.95
Prop hub 15 300321 $5.95
Drive gasket 04-06 100136 $1.99
Drive gasket 07 100136-2 $1.99
Drive gasket 15 300136 $1.99
Venturi assembly 04-07 (without needle) 101159-02 $14.95
Carburetor assembly 04-07 (without needle) 110159RC $22.95
Venturi O-ring  04-07 100209 $2.89
Throttle lever 04-15 100202 $3.95
Throttle lever stop spring 04-07 100204 $2.89
Throttle lever stop screw 04-07 100205 $2.89
Venturi nut 07 100281 $2.89
Venturi screw 100291 $2.89
Cylinder head screw 04-06 (qty 4) 100127 $4.39
Cylinder head screw 07 (qty 4) 100325 $4.49
Muffler 04-06 101003 $15.95
Muffler pressure spring 04-06 110120 $2.99
Muffler assembly 07 110157 $19.95
Muffler assembly 15 300003 $23.95
Muffler spring 15 300142 $2.99
Muffler O-ring 15 300209-01 $2.89
Head 04-06 110131 $5.95
Head 07 120131 $5.95
Diesel head (conversion to diesel) 04-06 400401 $22.95
Wire net 04-07 100122 $3.49
Fuel tank mount 04-06 (0.5 oz.) 102100 $14.95
Fuel tank mount 04-06 (1 oz.) 102200 $19.95
     
Carburator assembly 0.15 BB (2 needles) 301223 $34.95
Carburator assembly 0.15 SB  301224 $31.95
Prop spinner 25 400400 $7.95
Top cover 15 301206 $5.95
Back cover plate 15 300100 $9.95
     
All parts are 100% genuine, guaranteed.     
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Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Ted Fancher on December 01, 2010, 04:19:33 PM
Ted,
Are you going to borrow a 747 to take along as well?

Will,

I did have the use of one if I wanted it but I couldn't get it in the van.

Ted
Title: Re: Disaster has strucken! (only sorta, kinda)
Post by: Ted Fancher on December 01, 2010, 04:35:53 PM
Hey,

A great big thanks to all for pitching in for me.  I've sent an email the the Klondike address to try to buy a couple which seems the easiest way to go.  If that doesn't work out I'll investigate some of the alternatives you all so graciously provided.

Thanks again!

Ted