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Title: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Paul Taylor on November 09, 2008, 04:00:33 PM
I was swapping emails with my buddy Louis Ranking this past week and we setup a time to meet out at his place to help me learn something new. Well I can tell you I learn a number of things today. First off Louis sat out in the circle and walked me through a clover leaf. WOW !!!
It was not real pretty but it was a clover. I forgot to mention that he flew my PigTwist (48.6oz) first and said it was tail heavy. I had added a 1/2oz to the tail to compensate for the tube muffler. I did not adjust anything after I exchange the tube muffler for a tongue muffler. So we took the weight out of the tail and adjusted the lead outs. Boy I could tell the difference once we took the weight out of the tail.
It is running almost 5 second laps.
Lou suggested I change the prop to slow the plane down a little more. I will do just that.
My goal next year is to enter intermediate at the MSC.
I big THANKS to Louis for taking the time out of his afternoon to help me over the hump and trim my plane.
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Randy Ryan on November 09, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Congrats Paul, now you can do the entire pattern right? Once you get through the square maneuvers and the Cloverleaf you have all the element for the pattern.
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Joe Gilbert on November 09, 2008, 04:13:52 PM
Good job Paul , keep after it.
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Phil Coopy on November 09, 2008, 04:33:57 PM
You Go Paul!


Phi;
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Leo Mehl on November 09, 2008, 06:39:39 PM
Now you will begin a never ending quest to do all the manuevrs better You are on your way- To Portland someday I hope. Good going buddy! #^ #^ #^ HB~>
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Greg L Bahrman on November 09, 2008, 07:32:33 PM
WAHOO to you too!!!
Way to go, I think you just passed me up !!!
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Randy Powell on November 09, 2008, 07:59:28 PM
Feels great that first time you fly the full pattern. Nothing like it.

Congrats on your first clover.
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Zuriel Armstrong on November 10, 2008, 06:11:10 AM
Congrats Paul,

I was driving along and Paul called to let me know he had done the clover.  Way to go Paul and you could not have had a better coach than Lou.

Zuriel
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Paul Taylor on November 10, 2008, 07:18:29 AM
Thanks guys!

Just had to share the good news with my friends. y1



(and Ty - no we were not at Lou's house. Not sure if he put a circle in or not.)
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Charlie Pate on November 10, 2008, 07:55:23 AM
I was swapping emails with my buddy Louis Ranking this past week and we setup a time to meet out at his place to help me learn something new. Well I can tell you I learn a number of things today. First off Louis sat out in the circle and walked me through a clover leaf. WOW !!!
It was not real pretty but it was a clover. I forgot to mention that he flew my PigTwist (48.6oz) first and said it was tail heavy. I had added a 1/2oz to the tail to compensate for the tube muffler. I did not adjust anything after I exchange the tube muffler for a tongue muffler. So we took the weight out of the tail and adjusted the lead outs. Boy I could tell the difference once we took the weight out of the tail.
It is running almost 5 second laps.
Lou suggested I change the prop to slow the plane down a little more. I will do just that.
My goal next year is to enter intermediate at the MSC.
I big THANKS to Louis for taking the time out of his afternoon to help me over the hump and trim my plane.
 When you do the clover, just be sure and leave off the stem  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Harleyman on November 10, 2008, 08:09:19 AM
WHOO HOO!  y1
Way to go Paul!
Kind of fun when you got that one in your back pocket. #^
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Howard Rush on November 10, 2008, 07:06:21 PM
That particular trick tends to go bad for me more often than some of the others.  One thing I've found useful is using the sun as an intersection target when it's downwind, as it often seems to be.
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Richard Entwhistle 823412 on January 24, 2009, 08:23:25 PM
Paul

Three or four leaves?

Later
Richard in Portland
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Clayton Berry on January 25, 2009, 12:17:29 AM
Draw it on paper a few times.  It has some flat parts and even some long parts.  But, your aiplane can do it.  Have a little faith, and remember your  bottons.  You've done before.  It's bigger than you think (what Adam said to Eve, but that was a different flight).

Seriously.  Draw it out.  You'll see.
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Howard Rush on January 25, 2009, 10:42:29 AM
Good advice, Clayton.  I did that last year and realized some of the stuff I'd been doing wrong with the clover. 
Title: Re: Did my first Clover today!!!! WAHOO!!!
Post by: Clayton Berry on January 25, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Good advice, Clayton.  I did that last year and realized some of the stuff I'd been doing wrong with the clover. 

It isn't like most of the other maneuvers.  We switch from an inside loop to an outside immediately (or at least we should).  That's part of the beauty.  Of most maneuvers.  Eights and stuff.

But, a clover leaf is distinctly different.  It has four separate loops, two intersections, and some flat spots between them.  Yu have to fly across  and vertical to get them loops.  I'm no expert (though that's what they make me fly), but it is a rather large manuever.  I had some coaching from Dick Houser a few years ago.  Glad he wasn't armed (his shouting was quite sufficient).  But, what I got out of it was that it wasn't four loops all on top of each other.  It is a big and graceful manuever.  The grand finale, if you will.


Just my thoughts.  It's under 30 outside, and all I can do is think about it.   Brrr.