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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Dave_Trible on January 30, 2025, 12:05:56 PM
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So I input the following to Deepseek:
What is the most competitive CLPA design today?
The answer (condensed)
Impact designed by Igor Burger
Saturn designed by David Fitzgerald
Trivial Pursuit designed by Paul Walker
HMMMMMMM.....
Dave
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Some how this just does not surprise me!! You can not read any of article on line these days that isn't filled with grammatical and spelling errors and some sentences that just do not make sense! Obviously not written or proof read by any human, so how can you believe anything you read any more!!??
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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Artificial Intelligence has me a bit worried. Maybe needlessly so, but nevertheless, I am not willing to trust a computer for everything.
With so much reliance on that stuff, we are just one disaster away from being transported back to primitive times.
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Put the same thing into Microsoft's Copilot:
They found some other CLPA and gave me the lowdown on it so I spelled it out:
What is the most competitive Control Line Precision Aerobatics design today
The most competitive Control Line Precision Aerobatics design in 2025 is the Dub Jett Miss Foxy Lady. This model is known for its exceptional performance and precision, making it a favorite among competitors in the National Model Pilots Association (NMPRA) Q-40 Championship Race
OK, I can see the similarities between PA and Q-40 but maybe calling it "Stunt" might help:
The most competitive Control Line Stunt design today is a beautiful, large aircraft that performs a prescribed stunt pattern before a panel of judges. Flights are scored by smoothness and accuracy of maneuvers, with a bonus for aircraft appearance. There are no design restrictions, but most models typically use .35-.60-size engines, with wingspans reaching more than 5 feet5.
I think I will go with real intelligence, at least for now. However, maybe the Chinese know something we don't. LL~
Ken
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Hope the doctor doesn't rely on it for medical advice........
Dave
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Does AI use a positronic brain, like Lt. Cmdr. Data?
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Artificial Intelligence has me a bit worried.
Me too.
First, to me, the term "Artificial Intelligence" in and of itself is stupid. In simple basic terms "Artificial" means not real, or fake.
These AI drum bangers are determined to sell us on how great their new form of "Intelligence" is, and at the same time they name it "Artificial"? The product name itself doesn't seem like an ideal marketing move to me. Maybe the name was created and spit out by their own wonderful AI programs? Probably seems logical to them.
My viewpoint is that it's the severe lack of "Real Intelligence" in our world today that has us in the sorry states we're in. Driving the AI push more than anything is that, obviously, there's not nearly the money to be made with good-old-fashioned "Real Intelligence", I.E, YOUR BRAIN.
A big fear that I have about large scale AI implementation in our businesses and workplaces is PEOPLE, and especially employers, thinking they're going to rely on it and not use their own brains and gut to think and feel for themselves. For the ones that do think they're going to put their feet up and rely on it I look at that as just another of their lazy ways out. Unlike too many these days, I don't need a computer program to tell me the stove is HOT. So, thanks but no thanks, I've got no plans to (willingly) drink their Kool-Aid and I'll be happy to just continue with my stick in the sand. D>K
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Put the same thing into Microsoft's Copilot:
They found some other CLPA and gave me the lowdown on it so I spelled it out:
What is the most competitive Control Line Precision Aerobatics design today
The most competitive Control Line Precision Aerobatics design in 2025 is the Dub Jett Miss Foxy Lady. This model is known for its exceptional performance and precision, making it a favorite among competitors in the National Model Pilots Association (NMPRA) Q-40 Championship Race
OK, I can see the similarities between PA and Q-40 but maybe calling it "Stunt" might help:
The most competitive Control Line Stunt design today is a beautiful, large aircraft that performs a prescribed stunt pattern before a panel of judges. Flights are scored by smoothness and accuracy of maneuvers, with a bonus for aircraft appearance. There are no design restrictions, but most models typically use .35-.60-size engines, with wingspans reaching more than 5 feet5.
I think I will go with real intelligence, at least for now.
Great examples of generic, inaccurate and/or irrelevant information, and at least harmless regarding the C/L topic. The scary thing is the ones who think they're going to rely on AI but know nothing about the particular and potentially significant topic will take the "Intelligent" info to be the gospel.
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They think that artificial intelligence will allow them to successfully employ DEI. I find it isn't working, because you need a certain amount of knowledge of a subject that will give a computer enough to generate the correct answer. For instance, I called Auto Zone to inquire about a soldering iron they had advertised on Google. The DEI says, "What you mean soldering iron?" I replied, yes - soldering iron. Next, I hear the DEI, "This here guy wants a soldering iron, do we have them?" After an extended wait for that answer, I hung up and went to Ace Hardware to get a soldering iron. Much to my surprise the DEI called me back while I was on the way to Ace using caller ID. She said they have a soldering iron. It took approximately 10 minutes for her to find that out. Why didn't AI help with that? Clearly, the DEI did not know what a soldering iron is or she could have walked to the tool section and looked for it.
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So this morning I asked it who it thinks will win the Super Bowl. It started by saying " Since today's date is October 30, 2023..........."
I think I'll give up trying
Dave
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The people in charge of Artificial Intelligence are at best at a lower than acceptable level of Natural Intelligence!!
It is really to the point that you can't believe ANYTHING you read these days!! Just about every article I read is full of misspellings, really bad grammatical errors and sometimes have wording (I wont call them sentences) that just don't make sense!!
Saw an article written by a teacher that said that she had students that could not manually text anymore, because they are so used to talking into their cell phone, and they can not relate to the written word!! How's that make things look for the future of mankind!!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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Artificial Intelligence has me a bit worried. Maybe needlessly so, but nevertheless, I am not willing to trust a computer for everything. With so much reliance on that stuff, we are just one disaster away from being transported back to primitive times.
You made a very astute observation, Jim.
I can't even purchase something at a store checkout without an occasional information technology (IT) hiccup or two. Try to get any help these days on-line with a purchase? I am lucky to even talk with an individual. Not all FAQ's state the particular issue I seek an answer for, but it is too far beyond these big company utra wealthy to even consider me, the customer. I am just a number. I have to outsmart the system to talk to someone.
Reading between lines, even if there are considerable unhappiness and complaints, they don't care as long as their bottom line profit margins are met. Thus the AI wave of the future mantra keeps on being pushed. Also, I have noticed in my travails, states are straying away from consumer protection that used to be a hallmark of nearly every state, to right a wronged customer. They all now seem to cow to big business or push it off to the fed gov.
The late George Carlin (if you overlook his vulgar choice of words to express frustration y1 VD~ ) was totally correct in his dialogue, "The American Dream".
This site has a transcript of his video that can be found on the various video sites.
https://www.icomedytv.com/content/george-carlin-the-american-dream-transcript (https://www.icomedytv.com/content/george-carlin-the-american-dream-transcript)
I did a PDF print of it before it disappears into the rabbit hole, like many sites over the past few years.
Bottom Line, AI is a good servant but a very poor master. AI decisions/advice of any importance needs final human involvement and decision making.
AI also needs the human ability to override it completely. Reference fairly recent crashes of Boeing 737 Max passenger liners that pilot could readily not override, resulting in massive casualties and death.
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The people in charge of Artificial Intelligence are at best at a lower than acceptable level of Natural Intelligence!!
It is really to the point that you can't believe ANYTHING you read these days!! Just about every article I read is full of misspellings, really bad grammatical errors and sometimes have wording (I wont call them sentences) that just don't make sense!!
Saw an article written by a teacher that said that she had students that could not manually text anymore, because they are so used to talking into their cell phone, and they can not relate to the written word!! How's that make things look for the future of mankind!!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Can't manually text anymore? Here is a better one. I should have bookmarked an article I saw recently. This article was about some places looking for people who could read cursive. Old documents, historical letters, etc. written at that time, in cursive, of course. But, very few could read what was on those documents. They were looking for translators, so to speak. Or code breakers. LOL
Since cursive is not being taught in many places anymore, the ability to read and write, in cursive, is becoming a lost skill, thanks to technology. Such a dependence on electronic devices leads to atrophy of the brain.
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Can't manually text anymore? Here is a better one. I should have bookmarked an article I saw recently. This article was about some places looking for people who could read cursive. Old documents, historical letters, etc. written at that time, in cursive, of course. But, very few could read what was on those documents. They were looking for translators, so to speak. Or code breakers. LOL
Since cursive is not being taught in many places anymore, the ability to read and write, in cursive, is becoming a lost skill, thanks to technology. Such a dependence on electronic devices leads to atrophy of the brain.
I got an even BETTER one!! At the last place I worked at before retiring, we used a lot of temporary help through services. Us full time people clocked in and out on a computer. The temporary help just signed in and out on a sheet of paper. All of the clocks we had hanging in the building were analog, dial clocks. Most of the temps we got could not tell time on an analog clock!! I had to dig out and get running an old digital time clock so they could use that!! If I were the boss, if you don't own a watch or can't tell time, you can't work here!!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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I can believe it. I have heard that some people buy digital watches because the analog dials are unreadable to them. I guess teaching how to tell time on an analog clock is as obsolete as teaching cursive.
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I find that all a little concerning like most everyone here and 'our' age bracket. However my grandmother made her own breads from scratch every day, made her own lye soap, made jellies, jams and butter pickles and sewed the clothes and made quilts for the whole family. My grandfather could cull chickens, ride and shoe a horse, hew wood and build houses with a hammer and nails and a bow saw. Can we ? They might not understand why not......
Smiles everyone, Smiles!
Dave
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I don't trust AI or some of these other so called help sites. They are only as smart as the person running the. Also Dave I have some more stuff you might be interested to pick up along with the SIG stuff. D>K
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Can we ? They might not understand why not......
Smiles everyone, Smiles!
Dave
True but our houses are better than theirs were. Can you say the same for this generation? Our Grandparents gave us an education system that was #1 in the world. Now we are #31. I doubt the kids today can even name 30 countries.
1 South Korea
2 Denmark
3 Netherlands
4 Belgium
5 Slovenia
6 Japan
7 Germany
8 Finland
9 Norway
10 Ireland
11 Singapore
12 United Kingdom
13 China
14 Hong Kong
15 Sweden
16 France
17 Australia
18 Iceland
19 Canada
20 Spain
21 Israel
22 Russia
23 Poland
24 Portugal
25 Latvia
26 Estonia
27 New Zealand
28 Switzerland
29 Lithuania
30 Hungary
31 United States
Ken