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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Sam Laughery on October 09, 2007, 05:28:56 PM

Title: Decal paper
Post by: Sam Laughery on October 09, 2007, 05:28:56 PM
I've misplaced the URL for the site to get decal transparencies.  Can someone help me out? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: Lee Thiel on October 09, 2007, 05:39:37 PM
This is where I get the decal paper I use.  Remember, if you want a non white background to get clear.  I got both, and use more clear than white.
Lee TGD      http://beldecal.com/inkjet_decals.cfm
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: Roger Vizioli on October 09, 2007, 06:48:58 PM
Lee,
Do you use laser printer or inkjet?
If inkjet, is there a fading problem with the decals?
We have no shade at our field.
Thanks,
Roger v. 
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: Lee Thiel on October 09, 2007, 07:53:43 PM
Hi Roger,  I use an inkjet printer.  After printing, I use several light coats of fuel proof spray clear over them.  So far afer a couple of years, no fading. I should add that so far all I have used is black print.
Lee TGD
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: Rob Killick on October 09, 2007, 08:20:29 PM
Hi ,

Are you using decal set and softener to snuggle the decals down ?
I use this stuff when building scale plastic models with water transfer decals .
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: Paul Smith on October 11, 2007, 08:59:46 AM
This is where I get the decal paper I use.  Remember, if you want a non white background to get clear.  I got both, and use more clear than white.
Lee TGD      http://beldecal.com/inkjet_decals.cfm


I bought a pack of this paper, with the white background.  I've had a 50% success rate.  Two good runs out of four.  It seems that there is some technique to spraying on the Krylon.  If you do it wrong, the decal gets fused to the backing and won't slide off, even after a long time in warm water.  I need more tests to determine the exact right way to do it.

Clear vs White.

Desktop printers don't have white ink, so you need to use white paper if your subject has white or pastels in it.  I have "beat the system" by scanning a sample of the MonoKote or paint into the computer and using that color sample as the background in the art work.
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: kdheath on October 13, 2007, 10:05:58 AM
We had a few HP inkjet efforts that faded, bue they wern't seaaled thorought=ly application, so Dunno wht that has to di with. We use ddecal solvent on our model RR things, bun't see any nees for it on the airplanes unless one builds with rivets....
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: Roger Vizioli on October 13, 2007, 10:38:53 AM
Hi Lee,
Many thanks.
I'll give it a try and then do the Florida Sun torture test.
Will let all know the results.
Roger
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: Robert McHam on October 13, 2007, 10:45:20 AM
Red tends to fade quickest and blue right behind it.This is due to the pigments used in the inks.  To really test this leave it where it can get a lot of sun every day. Fortunately most of us store our planes where little or no sunlight will get to them and that helps more than anything with the exception of  the clear sealer.  Is there a clear sealer that has UV block? That, I think would be the answer to the problem of fading... For those who do not experience fade, just keep on doing what you have been doing!

Robert
Title: Re: Decal paper
Post by: Bill Little on October 13, 2007, 11:24:04 AM
Some automotive urethane clears have UV blockers in them, and are fuel proof.  So if you clear coat the plane with those, the lack of fading is really helped.