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De-bonding Sig-Ment
« on: February 16, 2022, 11:13:39 AM »
Question about de-bonding cured Sig-Ment.  Is straight acetone hot enough to de-bond or loosen cured Sig-Ment?  How about Kleen-Strip lacquer thinner?  Randolph dope thinner?

Sig-Ment Ingredients from MSDS:
Cellulose Nitrate  15%
Isopropyl Alcohol 5%
Toluene 20%
Acetone 40%
Methyl Ethyl Ketone 10%
Dioctyl Phthalate  >5%
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Re: De-bonding Sig-Ment
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2022, 11:18:23 AM »
Question about de-bonding cured Sig-Ment.  Is straight acetone hot enough to de-bond or loosen cured Sig-Ment?  How about Kleen-Strip lacquer thinner?  Randolph dope thinner?

Sig-Ment Ingredients from MSDS:
Cellulose Nitrate  15%
Isopropyl Alcohol 5%
Toluene 20%
Acetone 40%
Methyl Ethyl Ketone 10%
Dioctyl Phthalate  >5%


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Re: De-bonding Sig-Ment
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2022, 11:21:46 AM »
Pure acetone is the best choice.  Methylethylketone is OK but a little slower.  If the product is really dry you will have difficulty or will not be able at all to dissolve it with paint thinner etc.

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Re: De-bonding Sig-Ment
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2022, 11:43:52 AM »
If you have acetone on hand it should work. IF it doesn't and you must purchase something, Toluene.
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Re: De-bonding Sig-Ment
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2022, 12:06:57 PM »
Acetone will debond Sigment just fine.  Be patient...      I use a small pipette to put the acetone where it is needed.  Keep reapplying as the acetone evaporates.
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Re: De-bonding Sig-Ment
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2022, 12:31:28 PM »
If you have acetone on hand it should work. IF it doesn't and you must purchase something, Toluene.

Toluene is an excellent component of thinners for nitrocellulose-based products and in nitrocellulose paints it is very useful for obtaining a smooth film free of orange peel wrinkles.  However, you will have a lot of difficulty dissolving dry nitrocellulose using toluene.

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Re: De-bonding Sig-Ment
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2022, 02:05:53 PM »
Use acetone and wrap it with plastic to slow the evaporation. If it's a large part, say a wing, put it in a trash bag and pour in some acetone.

A handy source of acetone is the In the nail polish section of the grocery store. Make sure it says 100% acetone. Some are not 100% and contain an oil to prevent skin drying out.

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Re: De-bonding Sig-Ment
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2022, 08:02:19 AM »
The EPA and DEA seem to be in control over just how much Acetone one can purchase at a time.  Several months ago I went to Walmart and got two gallons of Acetone. They would not let me buy but one gallon. something about meth.  So I bought one gallon, on credit card, took it  out to may car and went back in and got another gallon, took it to a different cashier and paid with cash.  Stupid law was too easy to by pass. What drug maker is going to put Acetone on a credit card?  I use this stuff to clean my brushes and spray guns.  D>K

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Re: De-bonding Sig-Ment
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2022, 09:06:24 AM »
Repeated application of acetone, flooding and wicking did the trick. 
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