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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: 55chevr on October 10, 2013, 10:36:24 AM

Title: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: 55chevr on October 10, 2013, 10:36:24 AM
I have been offered a Dazzler 40 ARF by a friend.   I don't fly RC at all anymore and I was considering converting it to control line.   Should be similar to a Sig Fazer but would have built up box fuselage.  These 3D RC sport planes have almost Bi-Slob characteristics.  Anyone attempt this?   I searched but didn't find any thing on it converted to CL.

Joe
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: Brett Buck on October 10, 2013, 10:55:28 AM
I have been offered a Dazzler 40 ARF by a friend.   I don't fly RC at all anymore and I was considering converting it to control line.   Should be similar to a Sig Fazer but would have built up box fuselage.  These 3D RC sport planes have almost Bi-Slob characteristics.  Anyone attempt this?   I searched but didn't find any thing on it converted to CL.

   Quite a few of the RC "3d" ARFs have been converted for CL use. Richard Oliver flew either a converted ARF or a model based on similar principles at a Team Trials. It did some stuff well and other stuff not so well, and while he didn't end up in the money at the TT, he certainly would have won most contests in the world with it.

     Brett
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: ChrisSarnowski on October 10, 2013, 01:12:03 PM
From pictures on the Great Planes website, it looks like the airfoil is not symmetrical.

-Chris
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: Posthole_digger on October 10, 2013, 01:26:20 PM
The kit airfoil is almost symmetrical. The bottom rear is straight on the bottom rear to ease building it on a table. The weight may be a little high but you can determine that. The airfoil is very thick.

Paul
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: ChrisSarnowski on October 10, 2013, 01:48:17 PM
Here is a link to the picture that I looked at.

http://www.greatplanes.com/reviews/gpma1038-rcm.html
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: Elwyn Aud on October 10, 2013, 03:40:46 PM
The ease of engine access is nice but the lack of any type of cowling sure doesn't help its looks any. 
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: 55chevr on October 10, 2013, 05:21:45 PM
I will go and look at it ... supposed to be new in box.    I see that the 3D stuff apparently converts to CL fairly easy.

Joe
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: Steve Hines on October 10, 2013, 07:28:00 PM
This is a heavy plane, by brother went over 5lbs. he broke the wing and stab do snap rolls. some how he got it back on the ground and we fixed it. you might get it around 4 pounds with out the rc things. you would need to put a 60 on it for power this would make it nose heavy.

Steve
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: 55chevr on October 10, 2013, 09:58:52 PM
I was actually thinking of going electric .... Scorpion 3020/10 with 4S 3300 ... If I can get the deal I want then I either save for it RC should I ever decide to do that again or if it can come in light enough fly it control line ... Have to see it or better yet weigh it.


Joe
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: proparc on October 11, 2013, 05:41:26 PM
Here is a link to the picture that I looked at.

http://www.greatplanes.com/reviews/gpma1038-rcm.html


I'm going to call about 1.5 degrees of negative incidence on the stab looking at that airfoil. That is a strictly a THALR calculation. What do you guys say?
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: 55chevr on October 11, 2013, 07:49:20 PM
Dazzler is new in the box ... still taped to the cardboard. I traded a Curare RC pattern ship that I got 30 years ago in another trade.  Nice plane, well built and straight but I have absolutely no use for an RC pattern ship. Dazzler is interesting. All wood with plastic skin.  Thick airfoil and long cord.  I am hoping for Bi-Slob like performance.
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: john e. holliday on October 12, 2013, 08:20:18 AM
Good luck.
Title: Re: Dazzler 40 ARF
Post by: Steve Helmick on October 12, 2013, 10:08:39 PM
It looks pretty "draggy" to be useful as an eStunter, but of course, it depends on what you'll expect from it.  ??? Steve