Author Topic: Dremel Table Saw (Read 3410 times)

Dan McEntee · « **on:** January 12, 2019, 07:54:21 PM »

I have a Dremel table saw that gets use from time to time. I actually started a new model today, since it snowed butt deep to a 9 foot Indian last night, could not really get out to go anywhere, and the work bench was clear enough to at least build up the engine crutch.
I cleared off the Dremel saw to cut some balsa blocks and maple motor mount stock. The saw is pretty useful but has it's limits. I'm sure there has got to be a better blade out there for them in the after market. Maybe even a better drive belt or system for the blade.
What's the best replacement blade that you guys that use these more often might have found and can recommend? I'm thinking a nice, sharp new blade will help out a lot.
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Dan McEntee

John Rist · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2019, 08:09:11 PM »

I looked on the Dremel web sight. Didn't see a table saw. Do they still make one?

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2019, 08:48:55 PM »

No, they haven't been made in years. They used to sell replacement blades for a while but when their stock ran out, that was it. It's one of those tools you might not use for years, but when you need it it's good to have. As far as I know, there is nothing exactly like it on the market, but maybe some one makes blades for them. I have seen them go for good prices used, and used to be desired by some people. I'm not looking to sell mine, just looking for a better blade. I hope to use it more in the near future!
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Curare · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2019, 08:55:55 PM »

I haven't been able to find them for years, so I had to improvise; coping saw blades are readily available, and I make replacements by cutting them to the right length for a dremel, and then drilling a hole for a new cross pin. I used to solder them in but these days I don't really bother, they stay in there just fine.

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2019, 09:02:48 PM »

Quote from: Curare on January 12, 2019, 08:55:55 PM

I haven't been able to find them for years, so I had to improvise; coping saw blades are readily available, and I make replacements by cutting them to the right length for a dremel, and then drilling a hole for a new cross pin. I used to solder them in but these days I don't really bother, they stay in there just fine.

No, not the jig saw, I have one of those also. Blades should be available for those in one brand or another. I'm referring to the circular table saw. Has a 3 or 4 inch diameter blade. I've done a bit of searching and Micro-Marl has some blades, and a few offerings on eVilBay. I hope to get the right thing on the first try!
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Tony Drago · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2019, 09:06:05 PM »

There's some Zimbto 4in. in 66 & 200 tooth blades on ebay. They state they well replace the old Dremel blades. But Not Cheap. $19 to $38 each. Also has belts. Seller is in Hawaii User name Zimbyo.

George Albo · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2019, 09:22:24 PM »

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-4-Chisel-Tooth-Combination-Blade-8003-for-DREMEL-580-Table-Saw-30-Teeth/192732781161?hash=item2cdfc4da69:g:RIUAAOSwJ~5b9gsM:rk:3:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-100mm-Carbide-24-Tooth-Blade-for-Dremel-Table-Saw-580-580-2-588-1-2-Arbor-TCT/162237205544?hash=item25c6174c28:g:A8AAAOSwZJBX~tMQ:rk:2:pf:0

Hope that helps

Curare · « **Reply #7 on:** January 12, 2019, 11:13:49 PM »

Quote from: Dan McEntee on January 12, 2019, 09:02:48 PM

No, not the jig saw, I have one of those also. Blades should be available for those in one brand or another. I'm referring to the circular table saw. Has a 3 or 4 inch diameter blade. I've done a bit of searching and Micro-Marl has some blades, and a few offerings on eVilBay. I hope to get the right thing on the first try!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Ahh, right you are - Jeez Dremel leave such a wake of orphans behind them it's hard to keep up! Not to mention the fact that the ye olde dremels like I have use a 3" blade and the newer ones use a 5" blade!

11290 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2019, 12:02:47 AM »

https://www.harborfreight.com/4-in-24T-Mini-Table-Circular-Saw-Blade-61243.html

Dave Hull · « **Reply #9 on:** January 13, 2019, 01:54:28 AM »

General rules for picking tablesaw blades:

--Thin kerf takes less power
--Ripping takes more power than cross-cutting
--More teeth are better for cross-cutting, with less tearout. Fewer teeth are used in ripping blades
--A cross-cut optimized blade will rip, but it takes more power
--Many prefer a combination blade that will do both passably well. If you are power limited based on ripping hard maple stock for motor mounts you need to pick a blade for ripping as a first criteria
--A sharp blade is needed when power is limited. But not all carbide is created equal. The edge quality (sharpness) of cheap carbides is not so good. Thin kerf carbides tend to be more fragile
--A plain-tooth blade (not carbide) when it is sharp will cut maple no problem
--I don't know if anyone bothers sharpening these mini-blades. If I was in the middle of cutting motor mounts and needed a sharper blade, I'd definitely go after it with a stone
--The Forrest sawblades have some of the best sharpening geometries going. Lots of tests have been done. Both Forrest style and Freud are very good. But I don't see any mini-blades from them
--If the motor will pull it, but the belt is slipping, then...tighter or add dressing
--If you are burning the edges of the cut with your blade when cutting maple, then the saw is not square, the blade is dull, or the blade does not have sufficient relief (carbide tipped) or set (plain)
--Raising the blade will use less power. But with more blade exposed you need to follow safety rules very carefully
--A dirty blade (with wood sap on it) will waste power and may be more prone to burning the wood

There is probably more, but this is what comes to mind,

Good luck with your new project!

Dave

PS--It has poured on and off here the last few days. I saw catfish drowning in my driveway, and there are no lakes around here.... So I'm trying to do some building, too!

Avaiojet · « **Reply #10 on:** January 13, 2019, 06:38:54 AM »

Even with a great blade I wouldn't run hard maple through the Dremel table saw.

1/4" ply is about it.

Tom Morris has everything you need to build model airplanes, including beautifully cut engine mounts and notched gear mounts, cut to any size you like and made of hard maple.

Tom generally sends stuff out the same day as the order so nothing takes long to get if your in a hurry.

The Dremel table saw, although small and compact, could easily make a mess out of a finger or other areas of a hand.

George Truett · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2019, 07:34:59 AM »

Somewhere, maybe here, I read about the Byrnes tools. His saw looks like the Dremel taken to a much higher level. These tools are are pricey but look like they will last a lifetime, I really want the saw and thickness sander. I don't know if his replacement blades fit the Dremel but I would think so. http://www.byrnesmodelmachines.com/tablesaw5.html

Tony Drago · « **Reply #12 on:** January 13, 2019, 03:38:32 PM »

Quote from: George Truett on January 13, 2019, 07:34:59 AM

Somewhere, maybe here, I read about the Byrnes tools. His saw looks like the Dremel taken to a much higher level. These tools are are pricey but look like they will last a lifetime, I really want the saw and thickness sander. I don't know if his replacement blades fit the Dremel but I would think so. http://www.byrnesmodelmachines.com/tablesaw5.html

That really is not a bad price. Considering what a really descent used Dremel would go for. Let a lone if a NIB one showed up for sale. Thanks for posting the link.

Dave Hull · « **Reply #13 on:** January 13, 2019, 03:55:06 PM »

Your other choice would be MicroLux

https://www.micromark.com/mini-powertool/-saws

dave siegler · « **Reply #14 on:** January 13, 2019, 07:36:09 PM »

first of a ll the Dremel table saw is pretty neat, and you are lucky to have one.

I heard that the motor can plug up with dust and start a fire if not cared for, but we would clean it out often right? A fire lawsuit was why they stopped selling the saw.

You can still get blades from trim saws, and there is replacement parts out there. I made a bushing to fit blades from metal cutting trim saws. narrow kerf and real nice.

bicycle cone wrenches work well as blade wrenches.

https://www.radicalrc.com/search/table%20saw

I made a table saw sled for it and use it all the time.

There are some better ones but this is still a good one. it use needs a little care to set it up.

Norm Furutani · « **Reply #15 on:** January 13, 2019, 08:05:15 PM »

There is a thread running on RCG re: hobby table saw blades. Go to: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3191645-Byrnes-Table-Saw-Blade

Norm

Roy DeCamara · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2019, 11:05:26 PM »

Hi Dan I have used the Dremel table saw for over 40 years. Over 20 years ago I bought two 4" carbide blades from Micro Marx. The blades at that time were made in Japan and are excellent. I put the finer tooth blade on and it is still in use today. When I started spending the winters in AZ I needed a table saw down here, so I bought one off EBAY. Luckily, it came with the same Japan carbide blade as I got from Micro Marx. I have used that saw for the last 16 years and who knows how much it had been used before I got it. If Micro Marx still has those carbide blades you cannot go wrong ordering one. Yes they cost more, I think I paid around $30 or so way back then. One last comment, I did have my first saw catch fire. It didn't burst into flames, but could have. I smelled something burning and turned the saw upside down and saw the dust inside the motor around the brushes glowing embers. I blew it out with compressed air and have continued to periodically clean the motor. Hope this helps................Roy D

Les McDonald · « **Reply #17 on:** January 14, 2019, 03:53:40 PM »

I did a quick Google search.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dremel+table+saw+blades&oq=dremel+table+saw+blade&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.9123j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2019, 05:50:16 PM »

Quote from: dave siegler on January 13, 2019, 07:36:09 PM

first of a ll the Dremel table saw is pretty neat, and you are lucky to have one.

I heard that the motor can plug up with dust and start a fire if not cared for, but we would clean it out often right? A fire lawsuit was why they stopped selling the saw.

You can still get blades from trim saws, and there is replacement parts out there. I made a bushing to fit blades from metal cutting trim saws. narrow kerf and real nice.

bicycle cone wrenches work well as blade wrenches.

https://www.radicalrc.com/search/table%20saw

I made a table saw sled for it and use it all the time.

There are some better ones but this is still a good one. it use needs a little care to set it up.

Hi Dave;
Do you remember what brand and diameter you got? This is what I was thinking about, someone has already gone through the drill of finding what fits and will work well and what won't. Doing a search tends to come up with all other things Dremel except what I'm looking for. Far too often the results of the search, even the one at the top, don't have anything to do with what you are looking for and it's there because some one paid big bucks to get put on top!
Thanks again for all the reply's. I'll get it all sorted out and figured out before too long.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Rick Bollinger · « **Reply #19 on:** January 14, 2019, 06:24:01 PM »

Dan I replaced mine a few years ago. I just took it off and went to one of the Home Depot Lowe's or Menards stores. I don't remember which one but I found a replacement. It is a carbide tipped thin kerf and I don't think I paid over $15.00 for it. It was for one of the small battery saws not for sure which one but just compare it and you will find what you want. And what a difference it makes over the stock blade. It is like day and night. Now if I could only find a fence for my Dremel saw that would be great.
Rick

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2019, 06:32:30 PM »

Hi Rick;
Did you have to bush down the arbor hole, or was it already 1/2" ? I may send off for the adapter stuff in the link that Dave Siegler posted. And that Zimbyo brand stuff that Tony Drago mentioned looks promising. Was what you found 4" diameter and do you remember the tooth count? I really would rather go into a brick and mortar store and look at what I'm buying.
Thanks a lot,
Dan McEntee

Rick Bollinger · « **Reply #21 on:** January 14, 2019, 06:48:38 PM »

Dan I just went out and checked my saw. It says, 4" Portland saw blade, 24 tooth carbide tipped, 1/2" arbor Ideal for alum, brass, copper and wood. I have not used it for anything but wood.

Rick

George Truett · « **Reply #22 on:** January 14, 2019, 06:50:24 PM »

For Rick:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DREMEL-580-CUSTOM-MADE-ALUM-ADJ-RIP-FENCE-NICE-ITEM-SAW-NOT-FOR-SALE/254072140855?hash=item3b27e13437:g:5J0AAOSwyjNbVPIt:rk:1:pf:1&frcectupt=true

Rick Bollinger · « **Reply #23 on:** January 14, 2019, 07:00:54 PM »

Thanks George that's pretty cool.

Rick Bollinger · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2019, 07:13:06 PM »

Dan this is it here.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/273423586684

dave siegler · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2019, 08:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Dan McEntee on January 14, 2019, 05:50:16 PM

Hi Dave;
Do you remember what brand and diameter you got? This is what I was thinking about, someone has already gone through the drill of finding what fits and will work well and what won't. Doing a search tends to come up with all other things Dremel except what I'm looking for. Far too often the results of the search, even the one at the top, don't have anything to do with what you are looking for and it's there because some one paid big bucks to get put on top!
Thanks again for all the reply's. I'll get it all sorted out and figured out before too long.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

this is the one I have in there now and it works well. 3 3/8" blade cheap, $12 needs a bushing from 15mm to 1/2 but a real thin .046 kerf.

but there are a lot of others

https://www.factoryauthorizedoutlet.com/makita-3-3-8-50t-combo-blade-general-purpose?google=1&CAWELAID=230005750000003901&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=20078458211&CATCI=pla-22190487757&gclid=Cj0KCQiAg_HhBRDNARIsAGHLV50_61pPMUcOSE2w4OgEYLiV6YMtjV-7y4QCmW6GTByRiuzt1HygknoaAkntEALw_wcB

this one looks good too 021 kerf and only $8

https://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/power-tool-accessories/circular-saw-blades-accessories/skil-reg-3-3-8-x-50-tooth-plywood-circular-saw-blade/75350/p-1484119222969.htm
https://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/power-tool-accessories/circular-saw-blades-accessories/skil-reg-3-3-8-x-50-tooth-plywood-circular-saw-blade/75350/p-1484119222969.htm

Walter Johnson · « **Reply #26 on:** January 15, 2019, 09:46:18 AM »

Check out RadicalRC.com they have blades of all tooth counts carbide tipped and a bunch of parts and tools for the saw also Sparky has been to the shop a few times. Walter

Target · « **Reply #27 on:** January 15, 2019, 11:36:55 PM »

I'm excited that i have a really clean used 580-2 Dremel saw headed my way. Just bought it tonight off fee-bay.

Peter in Fairfax, VA · « **Reply #28 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:14:14 AM »

Here's a Dremel Table Saw I'm offering:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202578345266?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Peter

Doug Moisuk · « **Reply #29 on:** January 28, 2019, 11:09:54 AM »

I got my old blade sharpened. Much better. Also bought a carbide tipped blade off eBay. Just search eBay.

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #30 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:55:35 PM »

Well to update this a little bit, here is what I have got so far. I went to Harbor Freight and got a 24 tooth carbide tipped blade for 5 bucks. Nice blade just not as fine as I would like for some stuff. I ordered a 66 tooth blade from the eBay seller is Hawaii that was mentioned and it works pretty good. I also ordered a 40 tooth carbide tipped blade from an eBay seller who I can't remember right now and will try that as soon as opportunity permits. I am waiting on the special nut and a few other things from Radical R/C that should be here any time and need that nut to try the 40 tooth blade. And I have a new in package 100 tooth Dremel blade like the other three I have used already. I may try making a jig to sharpen those just to see if I can do it. I think this will cover all of my needs for the foreseeable future and want to thank everyone for their input and advise. These are nice little saws for what we do and I hope to do more building and get more use out of mine!
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Dan McEntee