Author Topic: Beautifully built and finished airplane (Read 2656 times)

kevin king · « **on:** March 28, 2022, 09:23:26 AM »

Can anyone give me more info on this work of art?

kevin king · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2022, 10:02:52 AM »

Thanks Bob. Do you know if that's a Urtnowski design or...?
Kevin

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2022, 02:53:58 PM »

I do believe that is a Tempest, judging from the rudder shape. I do not know the builder, but is a nice looking model!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Will Hinton · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2022, 03:30:03 PM »

Gary flew that at the FCM contest weekend last summer, and he won the concourse award with it. It is totally immaculate!!

Robert Whitley · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2022, 10:39:35 PM »

Hi Kevin.
Definitely a Tempest. Check out the semi-elliptical wing planform.
The Sea Fury kind of evolved from it.
Some also had Bristol radial engines.

George Grossardt · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2022, 10:28:08 AM »

Kevin,

Your planes are very nicely done as well. You should post pictures of your fleet.

George

kevin king · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2022, 10:54:09 AM »

Anyone know if there are plans for the tempest?

kevin king · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2022, 10:56:28 AM »

Quote from: George Grossardt on March 29, 2022, 10:28:08 AM

Kevin,

Your planes are very nicely done as well. You should post pictures of your fleet.

George

Thanks George, i think most of my planes are on here already.

Don Jenkins · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2022, 05:26:59 AM »

Here's another Tempest that Gary did, he does incredible work. I got this pic of him at the 2016 Brodak Fly-in. I may be mistaken, but I think Joe Adamusko may have designed it.

Don

wwwarbird · « **Reply #9 on:** March 30, 2022, 06:34:22 PM »

Exceptional model!

Dan McEntee · « **Reply #10 on:** March 30, 2022, 09:57:48 PM »

Quote from: Don Jenkins on March 30, 2022, 05:26:59 AM

Here's another Tempest that Gary did, he does incredible work. I got this pic of him at the 2016 Brodak Fly-in. I may be mistaken, but I think Joe Adamusko may have designed it.

Don

Not to be nit picky, but I think this model IS a Typhoon judging from the shape of the rudder. i had Walt Brownell's OS .70 four stroke Typhoon hanging upside down in my garage for two years, and had to duck under that rudder a lot while it was here!! I'm far from an expert on Hawker aircraft and could be wrong. They were not produced in very large numbers and as some one mentioned already that the Seafury grew out of those developments. And to add to the confusion, there was a model called Tornado in the mix also! We have a club member that built a C'L scale model of the Tornado but I haven't seen that one much. Both gorgeous models! Walt's typhoon was really nice also, and for an almost 25 year old model was in great shape because he hardly flew it. It weighs 80 ounces and he couldn't waster that OS .70 and all 80 ounces when it got moving! That was really early in the 4 stroke movement and I guess he never got a handle on it. I applied some of what I learned from Bob Reeves on running 4 strokes and got close but couldn't get it consistent. That model had to fly 5.3 or .4 laps or it was just a beast. Any faster and it was hard to hold, and any slower and it was loose as a goose.. I really didn't have room for it and rather tear it up I donated it to a local aviation youth group that was looking for models to decorate their building with. At least people will see it but most will think it's a Spitfire!!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

M Spencer · « **Reply #11 on:** March 30, 2022, 11:26:14 PM »

Theres a Tempest Wing . Zact Scale almost , if we dont mention the airfoil .

Gotts Plug for the Fuselage . 63 Span , for there usual ST 60 or pRo Jett etc etc . Not to mention the TYPHOON .

Wot the Al ,

OS 80 in the Typhoon . Mr Rabes coments re stability & manouvreability ( Bearcat ) and Short Noses apply . V Good .

Trostle · « **Reply #12 on:** March 30, 2022, 11:51:24 PM »

Quote from: Dan McEntee on March 30, 2022, 09:57:48 PM

Not to be nit picky, but I think this model IS a Typhoon judging from the shape of the rudder.

Type at you later,
Dan McEntee

Some views of the Typhoons and Tempests.

Keith

Trostle · « **Reply #13 on:** March 30, 2022, 11:55:41 PM »

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Trostle · « **Reply #14 on:** March 30, 2022, 11:57:20 PM »

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Don Jenkins · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:22:35 AM »

The Tempest was a modified Typhoon. The Typhoon performed poorly at altitude so it was modified with a better performing laminar flow wing and was renamed the Tempest. The model built by Gary is a Tempest, the shape of the wing tells all!

Don

John Park · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:04:21 AM »

Quote from: Don Jenkins on March 31, 2022, 06:22:35 AM

The Tempest was a modified Typhoon.

If so, it was so heavily modified as to be effectively a new design. The reason for the poor high-altitude performance of both aircraft was primarily the Napier Sabre engine. Roland Beamont, who test-flew both of them, called the Tempest the best fighter of its time below 20,000 feet, recognising that it couldn't match the later Griffon-engined Spitfires at higher altitudes. The first chapter of Beamont's Testing Early Jets contains a hair-raising account of exploring compressibility by flat-out dives in a Typhoon, thus revealing the grave shortcomings of its thick wing. The whole book is well worth reading, especially his account of going supersonic in a prototype F-86! He was, incidentally, the first man to shoot down an enemy aircraft in a Tempest.

M Spencer · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2022, 08:22:56 PM »

The TEMPEST is essential a TYPHOON tail / FIN , with a front root fillet . Cept the 1st prototypes .
As theyed moved forward the engine , for a fuel tank , the Fillet was compensation for increased
Fwd. area / Stability .

Typhoon with Tempest tailplane . ( incidently , theyed forgotten to match the new wing to a new tailplane ,
the stalling characteristics were missmatched . Tempest Tailplane I think is Larger . Worked better than the
Typhoon one on Typhoons , So V Late Typhoons were fitted with the later Tempest Tailplane )

M Spencer · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2022, 08:27:11 PM »

LOOKS like hae has used the Urtnowski ' Spitfire 90 ' wing , tweaked , on His Tempest ! or the Adamusko . ( Same Thing ) or stuntress , or wasit wiper .

Foiter , The SEA FURY ( and FURY ! ) ( no hook , folding wings on Fury & Rudders rear rounded lower aft ) .

They got the Typhoon / Tempest Fuse , changed the center to monocoque , Shifted the cockpit UP a way , & the Tailplane half a way ! ( Or arf as much - about 12 & 6 in)
in fact , the shifted the fuse slope up , on paper , so as to place tailplane higher & rear fuse underside more raised , presumably so the carrier deck was less in the way .

THEREFORE , as theres a Rabe Sea Fury PLAN extant ( along with Laser Cutting ) a rescraw , flat aft of cowl , Tailpost lowered , would get a Tempest II . Cutting off the Nose
would get a I , V , or VI . IF you wanted to go that way .

You can see it ere . Push the top down , to the back of the canopy , and kick the rear down a bit .
THEN THERES THE WING .

The TEMPEST the wings fitted against the fuse sides , The FURY ( SEA FURY ) the abutted , loosing the Fuse Width in SPAN . You can see that on the underside , viewing wheel well locations .

Thus therfore & so far , you can see its like that .

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throw a extra root rib in Rabes Sea Fury wing , and youre there . Better size too , ad a bit to the rear surfaces to match .
One,

Two,

Five,

oops .
A Six , with the widdle wing woot intakes like a Fury / Sea Fury , but sides transposed . The TWO has the little one BOTH SIDES . For Rivet Counters .

A FURY without the SEA .

Zee Sabre Fury . ( like a Mk 1 Tempest , almost . )

The intakes are in the roots , with NO chin cowl . V Fast Plane .
And just to be awkward , a Griffon fury . Which'd do of Als Drg.s too , easyish .

N R R R H h H A H - Da Da Da Duh noises etc !

kevin king · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2022, 02:03:48 AM »

Thanks for the 2nd view of it Air Ministry. Love seeing stunt ships detailed out to the moon and back!