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Title: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Bruce Perry on July 09, 2011, 09:00:04 PM
.... is my Jester.

I am truly honoured to recieve the award and to have shared the front row with Jim and Bob, two amazing modelers.  To have the gathered group of modelers choose Jester filled me with pride.  The honour is not lost on me.

To all thank you, I appreciate the recognition.

Bruce
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Steve Helmick on July 09, 2011, 09:15:01 PM
Congratulations, Bruce. I guess you'll be changing your avatar asap?   H^^ Steve
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Howard Rush on July 09, 2011, 09:19:49 PM
Congratulations, Bruce. 
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Derek Barry on July 09, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
Way to go Bruce. You are an outstanding builder and flier. Have a safe trip home and I hope to see you again soon. ;D

Derek
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Doug Moon on July 09, 2011, 09:28:32 PM
Awesome!!  I voted for it.  I wish you all could see it in person.  It is outstanding!!

Oh, and it flys damn good too.  :)

Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: ptg on July 09, 2011, 10:16:39 PM
First the Northwest Regionals and now the NATS!  Quite a feat and as good as it gets!  This is the year belongs to Bruce!  CONGRATULATIONS #^ 
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Ted Fancher on July 09, 2011, 11:14:51 PM
It would appear the "Jester" is no longer just a clown!

Congratulations, our friend.  You done Good!

Ted and Shareen
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on July 10, 2011, 01:08:09 AM
Congratulation Bruce.
The Jester is awesome looking. I wish that I could see it in person.,
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: John Stiles on July 10, 2011, 01:33:46 AM
.... is my Jester.

I am truly honoured to recieve the award and to have shared the front row with Jim and Bob, two amazing modelers.  To have the gathered group of modelers choose Jester filled me with pride.  The honour is not lost on me.

To all thank you, I appreciate the recognition.

Bruce

What....no picture? ???
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: John Sunderland on July 10, 2011, 03:09:29 AM
Congratulations Bruce! Truly wish I could have been there! ;D Please post more pics when you have time. y1
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Alan Resinger on July 10, 2011, 07:04:23 AM
Here's a pic taken at the Northwest Regionals where it also won the Concours.
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: louie klein on July 10, 2011, 07:41:57 AM
Simple perfection pays off. Fantastic job! Congrats.---LOUIE  H^^ H^^ D>K
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: John Stiles on July 10, 2011, 08:07:18 AM
Sweeeeeeeeeeet! Congrats on a real beauty! H^^
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Mark Scarborough on July 10, 2011, 11:00:14 AM
Here's a pic taken at the Northwest Regionals where it also won the Concours.
It is a truly well done airplane,, I saw it first hand at the regionals as well, he snicked me out of the Concours trophy by one vote,I guess I need to pay off more of my friends next year LOL, its a very cleanly executed airplane, congrats on your flying too Bruce,,
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: SteveMoon on July 10, 2011, 12:36:54 PM
AWESOME Bruce! I voted for it and I'm glad you won.

Steve
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Will Hinton on July 10, 2011, 02:22:21 PM
Sweet, Bruce!  I'm really happy for you, it shows the guys still have a good eye for quality finishes! y1 y1
Blessings,
Will
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Randy Powell on July 10, 2011, 03:30:52 PM
It's awesome, Bruce. Great job! You deserve it.
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Allen Goff on July 10, 2011, 04:32:25 PM
 CONGRATULATIONS BRUCE. I FACEBOOKED YOU ALSO.  #^ #^ #^

BLESSINGS
ALLEN
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: afml on July 10, 2011, 08:08:10 PM
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/afml_photos/NATS2011167.jpg)

"Tight Lines!"

Wes
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: afml on July 10, 2011, 10:12:11 PM
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/afml_photos/NATS2011035.jpg)

"Tight Lines!" H^^

Wes
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Allan Perret on July 11, 2011, 06:51:32 AM
What design is the Jester, or is it Bruce's own design ?
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Ted Fancher on July 11, 2011, 09:41:02 AM
Wow, Bruce.  

That's the first picture I've seen of the new Concours award.  Who put that gorgeous thing together?  Are they going to become regular awards like the many years Arlie did the props?  

Well done to whoever designed and built it!

Ted

p.s.  That picture may be fuzzy but it can't hide the glee in your face and the pleasure in Paul's while sharing your joy.  Worth framing, fuzz or no fuzz.

You musta been a happy boy!
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Matt Colan on July 11, 2011, 02:28:21 PM
Bruce's plane is simply outstanding!  I also voted for him in the concours, and the plane looks like it flies really well too!!

Congrats again Bruce!!
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Bruce Perry on July 11, 2011, 06:11:37 PM
Thanks Guys!  I appreciate all the great comments and fine encouragement.  It was a pile of sanding and polishing to be sure but I'm pretty happy with it.  The heat in Muncie caused some new strangeness, but that's fine I'll touch it up this fall.

I was extremely happy to be awarded the monster prop trophy.  Paul was definitely enjoying the moment with me.  I told a short story about the first Jester and how Jimby came to my rescue after it had been dipped in polyurethane.  I am much better at the finishing process now, although I still like the yellow version too. 

J2 as it has become known in our house, is 4 oz lighter that J1 and it seems very happy in the air.  It has a pleasant corner while still tracking the rounds.  I told my Dad one night before I left for the nats, " It's like I'm cheating, this airplane is so easy to fly...".  It may not be easy or fit anyone else, but it sure fits my style and approach.

I am truly honoured with all the comments and Kudo's from all of you here and on F-book.  To win concours and also make top 10 was more than I could have hoped for before I left.  It was a great time and lots of laughs.

Thanks again to all that voted for Jester!

Bruce
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Scott Hartford on July 11, 2011, 09:10:22 PM
That is a sweet looking plane for sure! H^^
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Mike Keville on July 11, 2011, 09:44:18 PM
A well-deserved honor.  One of the prettiest examples we've seen in recent years.  Congratulations!
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Bruce Perry on July 14, 2011, 05:08:37 PM
Alan,
 
Yes, Jester is my design.  I have a brief history of the lineage as posted elsewhere....The discussion was about Merlin, father of Jester. 


My esteemed collegues have related much about my stunt antics but not much about Merlin. The story began with a foam wing one piece Impact, then a Geo wing take apart Impact, (58oz's too BTW) then Legend, the first variation on the Impact, then Merlin the variation on Legend. As Duck eluded to, the next ship is Jester, a variation on Merlin.

The design changes from Impact were based on my flying techniques and abilities. Paul has a finely tuned machine that he can fly to the very highest levels. I cannot. I get 200 flights a year tops with long winters and seemingly short summers. I decided to make some changes I reasoned would be good for me. (caveat emptor)

Merlin still has the basic Impact take apart system. This is all that remains from Paul's design. The airfoil was changed to have higher lift sections at the tip, I felt my earlier versions were occasionally tip stalling. I like the stationary tip where the flap ends before the end of the wing. I believe the vortices are happier with a stable place to attach. The flaps are made of solid wood and are very rigid. I was never able to get the built up ones stable enough. The fuselage on Merlin has molded top and bottom blocks and cowling. It uses multi piece formers to ensure perfect fit in the jig. The former sides are laid out in a geodetic fashion aft of the wing. This aids in the formation of the pipe tunnel later. The fuse sides are 3/32 c-grain with 1/32 ply doublers. They are molded to fit the motor mount curves at the nose. The Tail moment is longish at 19.5 inches. Nose moment is 10.75. The side area is dramatically larger than my other planes as Merlin has quite a deep fuse. Monster pipes are no problem. The tail area has been increased substantially too. I'm not sure of the area off the top but side by side with most stunters, Merlin has a big rear end. The vertical fin, was where a bunch more side area was added. Merlin carries 1 to 1.5 oz of tail weight in fighting trim. Depending on weather and judges. I used Winship controls throughout with rod ends at every connection except the stab where I use the Sullivan golden clevis. (YIKES) I have never had this style fail. I also inspect it regularly and can change it easily if necessary.

The result? I really enjoy flying the airplane, Merlin is powerful through the corners with a very positive stop. It's easy for me to fly and I feel comfortable with it. I am a proponent of PA's as I don't have time to develop new systems. I have used 51's, 61's, and 65's in the plane. All worked great, my personal favourite is the 65 so far. The challenges I faced with Merlin were; the geo-wing, I used 1/16" 6# and I should have sourced some .077 per Bobby, the model was not fuel proofed adequately and it is now very oil soaked. Not a fault of take apart construction, but an optimistic builder. The landing gear is unique per Howard's post. It is the humpty gear, originally from Howard himself. I made the gear on Merlin per Windy's article in FM. I have the new gear in Jester as seen on Dan Winships site. The downside is the gear requires some home fabrication as no one makes any for sale. Including me... Although I'll help you with how-to.

Jester, the new plane, addresses some of the faults from Merlin. Jester has a foam wing that I cut and vacuum bagged then cored. Very light and very strong. Not Geo light but likely to put up with more ham fisted handling. The fuse is stretched to 20" and reduced to 10 1/8. The styling is quite different with a clear canopy and very swoopy V-fin. The basic construction is the same with mostly cosmetic changes. I did reduce the side area slightly in profile as I extended the fuse again. Brett hounded me about the straight bottom fuse ending in a point.

So, the summary, I liked what Merlin did for Me and the way I fly. I really want to point out that I believe the best plane is the one you like and you feel comfortable with. I would never say there is one plane for everyone. If that were true we would have it by now.

I'm sure that there are some out there that will dispute the reasoning I have put here and that's fine. Point is it works for me. I don't have detailed plans for Merlin although the working drawing is on velum (SP?). I also have my building notes. If anyone is interested. At the WC's Merlin was 65oz's, PA 61, 715ish sq ins. He seemed right at home in the wind, Warren told me after I landed it had gusted to 26mph twice during my flight.

Jester is already in CAD and I'm working with Jack Pitcher to have a plan available should someone be interested. Currently, it's a great working drawing with some detail yet to be explained. I'll have the construction notes with Jester too as well as the finished weights.

The evolution continues, so far without flying Jester, I have really enjoyed Merlin the most. (Probably why it took four years for Jester to appear...) Merlin has been in the stunt wars for four years and was successful by my measure. The biggest compliments I recieved were from other pilots that flew it. Merlin now hangs proudly in my basement with a "hat pin Hatch" on the inboard wing. If you would like more information feel free to contact me directly. I am in the Pampa directory for last year and will not appear in this years edition.

Thank you for your interest.

Bruce Perry

The final installment would be that Jester(s) fly on PA 75's and I'm totally in love with the way they fly.  J2 has reached further into the performance envelope than J1 could simply because it's 4 oz's lighter.  That said, J1 can turn an excellent corner too.  They balance perfectly with the 75 and do not need the additional tail weight Merlin carried.  They use a clunk tank and are otherwise as related above. 



 
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: john e. holliday on July 15, 2011, 07:47:50 AM
Thanks for the info Bruce.  Way beyond my talents and capabilities.  Also great to hear someone say what I have been saying for years.  What works for one person may not work for the other person.  That is what makes model planes fun for me.  H^^
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Doug Moon on July 15, 2011, 10:33:38 AM
Bruce,

Can you post a pic of Merlin? Or point me to one?

Thanks.

Doug
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Steve Fitton on July 15, 2011, 12:40:32 PM
How are those Jester plans coming along?   #^
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Steve Helmick on July 15, 2011, 02:21:34 PM
Bruce,

Can you post a pic of Merlin? Or point me to one?

Thanks.

Doug

This was the only one I could find. It was either an early effort with a digital camera or an early effort at resizing and compression...sorry. I loved the Merlin's flames, and the way it flew. I don't think I saw any of Bruce's earlier planes (before Merlin) fly, but they're all hanging on the wall down in the "Stunt Lounge".  It's a great place to visit.  y1 Steve
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Bruce Perry on July 15, 2011, 02:47:42 PM
Helmick,

"the stunt lounge"..... I like it!

Doug,
Some other shots of Merlin, theone that made the most "news" was shot by Elwyn with only one wheel pant.  it was during practice at the 04 worlds..... "Bruce Perry's mount threw a shoe" was the caption. 

Steve,
They are complete.
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Bruce Perry on July 15, 2011, 02:50:55 PM
hahahaahah  I typed "bruce perry threw a shoe" into google and this came up....

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1163294398057392307BNvrUn

b
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Bruce Perry on July 15, 2011, 03:20:06 PM
de plans, de plans......  

You'll note the Missing part is the airfoil... root and tip....  working on that.

and it looks like some lines moved around when being converted to PDF.... oh well the real ones are fine.

B
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Doug Moon on July 15, 2011, 09:30:28 PM
I remember the Merlin.  Very cool!

The plans for The Jester look great.
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: john e. holliday on July 16, 2011, 09:25:11 AM
I forgot that Elwyn has a site for posting his pictures.  I think he sent me a disc of all the pictures he has taken of each venue he goes to.  Haven't seen him for a while and I guess after seeing the pics from Brodaks he is recovered from his bout with pneumonia.   Thanks for the link of the pictures from the 2004 Worlds.  Take a look at pic 7 after your plane flying minus part of the landing gear.  Was going to copy and paste to see what comments I could get, but then I thought I want to stay friends with Teddy Boy. H^^
Title: Re: concours winner for 2011
Post by: Allen Brickhaus on July 16, 2011, 03:15:45 PM
Keep up the great finish and flying work. 

Your friend,

Allen Brickhaus