While looking at the post on pictures and sizing them, there was the picture of a "Pow Wow". Wish mine had looked half that good. It got me to thinking(yes it hurts) that back in the 60's we had several really decent pilots flying aerobatics in copetition that had decent looking planes, nothing like what you see a the NATS or VSC. Anyway as he was wiping down his plane he turned it over to wipe the oil off the bottom. Was not even close to what the top looked like. I mean it was dull. I mentioned it to him and he responded with, " The judges don't look at the bottom". At that time in my life I had only been to one NATS and seen a couple of planes up close. I beleive in todays environment they would have been lucky to have gotten a 12 for appearance. Of course I think this was back when appearence was still 40 or more points. But, think back to that period of time of how many gorgeous planes there where at the old grass circles. Have fun, DOC Holliday