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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Bill Little on April 08, 2006, 08:40:57 AM
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On the off chance that you could see an article in a magazine of a Classic plane that has never before been published, at least not in English, what would it be?
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c'mon Guys! Am I the ONLY Classic Freak here????
??? :o ;D ;D ;D
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OK, some ideas:
Louis Grandal's AMA Special (AKA: Grondal Nobler) winnre of first two FAI WCs.
MacFasrland's Shark 35?
(you get the idea..........) ???
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OK Bill how about my jet style plane I built in 1965. It has 600 sq inches and was powered by a Fox 59. It has sweep back in the wing and a very large tail for 1965 at 25%+. I still have the plane and pictures taken in 1965 with my 44 year old daughter standing by it and the plane is bigger than she is. The funny thing is that I made the decision last month to build a new one after all these years. I flew it about 6 years ago with a ST/46 in it and it flew as well as most classic planes.
Ed Ruane
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OK Bill how about my jet style plane I built in 1965. It has 600 sq inches and was powered by a Fox 59. It has sweep back in the wing and a very large tail for 1965 at 25%+. I still have the plane and pictures taken in 1965 with my 44 year old daughter standing by it and the plane is bigger than she is. The funny thing is that I made the decision last month to build a new one after all these years. I flew it about 6 years ago with a ST/46 in it and it flew as well as most classic planes.
Ed Ruane
Hi ed,
Post a picture! If you would like, take pics during your construction, write up the "high points" and let's see how it goes! You got my phone number. :o ;D :-*
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OK Bill how about my jet style plane I built in 1965. It has 600 sq inches and was powered by a Fox 59. It has sweep back in the wing and a very large tail for 1965 at 25%+. I still have the plane and pictures taken in 1965 with my 44 year old daughter standing by it and the plane is bigger than she is. The funny thing is that I made the decision last month to build a new one after all these years. I flew it about 6 years ago with a ST/46 in it and it flew as well as most classic planes.
Ed Ruane
Yes, Intresting!, some pics please. I have a new old Fox 59 looking for an airplane, sounds neet. With permission of course. ;)
Greg
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The #1 Classic I'd love to see published is Riley Wooten's "Slick Stunt Ship" (from a tiny 2 view in AAM, as I recall)...actual name was said to be the "Lonestar", oddly enough. GMA told me that, anyway. Even if it has to be drawn from the little 2 view, I'm for it. Riley said he found some scraps of pencil drawings for it, tho. I didn't think to ask if he might still have the original. 8) Steve
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Well here it is today hanging upside down from the ceiling of my home office.It is pretty well beat up.It had set in a friends cellar in NYS after I mover from there to Florida in 1972. His son tried to fly it in the 70 and crashed it. When I got it back in the 80's the out board wing was crudly repaired and the canopy was crushed flat. I flew it at the first classic contest at Atlanta in the 8-'s and took second place with it. I had not flown it in over 20 years. Tom Dixon told me he just couldn't believe how well it flew. EDIT pictures would not upload,got message that it was full. pictures are not large? well under 50k.
Ed
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I do not know if it would be my number one choice for an unpublished classic design, but the Airon by Bernie Ash and flown by Jim Vornholt would be an interesting exercise. It has a small horizontal tail with reasonable sized elevators and flaps and a really small cross section at the fuselage rear. It would have to be built light. But still, it is an I-Beam with all of the classic and classy I-Beam looks.
52 inch wing with 520 sq. in. General layout drawing by Bill Dean was in Jul/Aug 63 issue of American Modeler.
John Davis gave me a set of plans for one some time ago. It is on my list of airplanes to build but way down on the priority list.
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There were three Airon's and the last one still is around somewhere.I have a set of plans that Tom Dixon drew that are not even close the the real plane. On those plane I have all the dimensions for the three versions.Bill Little has my plans at this time. Bill also has a copy of the last plane. All of the Airon's used the same tail and flaps.The very first Airon's flaps and tail are on the last plane that Ash built.I got a lot of information about Aron from John Davis,Vornholt and Sheeks.The wing is really nothing like the three view that was in the magazine many years ago. It is a neat plane that I wanted to built years ago so I got all the info on it but then gave up the idea of building it.Bill and I have talked about it for years.
Ed
Ed
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Keith and Eddy,
I'm pretty sure you will be surprised in the not too distant future. 8)
There are a couple of "non published" Classic planes on a short list for seeing the light of day as a revival (so to speak) of a "Series" started over 10 years ago in a popular magazine.
More will come later.