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C/L Racing Rules needed
« on: February 03, 2022, 10:28:09 AM »
When I go to the AMA web site and click on the C/L Racing rules I get "PAGE NOT FOUND". I desperately need a set of those rules. If you can please email a .pdf to: patdk@aol.com

Thanks,  Pat
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2022, 11:10:50 AM »
https://www.modelaircraft.org/sites/default/files/Control-Line_Racing_2019-2021.pdf

Not sure the ones for 2022 are out, but I don't think there was any substantial changes.

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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2022, 11:59:58 AM »
Thanks, Bill. This will give me what I need for now. We are deciding what events will be at our Midwest Regional C/L Championships. I was not sure of the differences between Mouse I and Mouse II.

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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2022, 12:16:05 PM »
Thanks, Bill. This will give me what I need for now. We are deciding what events will be at our Midwest Regional C/L Championships. I was not sure of the differences between Mouse I and Mouse II.

Pat

Big difference, Pat, is that nobody flies Mouse II, only Mouse I
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2022, 07:50:42 PM »
Or "Outlaw Mouse:" reed valve with non-integral tank, shutoff, and full fuse if you want to go there. We had a couple around here that were fun. And some of the 1/2A Scalers that MM was talking about. Pretty much "run whut u brung" around SoCal lately....

Probably doesn't need mentioning, but.... one difference for organizers is the difference in line lengths and whether your circle markings are good.

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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2022, 06:32:23 AM »
I notified AMA about the broken link for the 2022-2023 CL Racing rules and it has now been fixed.

https://www.modelaircraft.org/sites/default/files/Control%20Line%20Racing%202022-2023.pdf

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Bill
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2022, 03:21:43 PM »
Good Man
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2022, 08:33:50 PM »
I want to thank everyone for their help. AMA emailed me a .pdf of the 2022-2023 C/L Racing rules today.

We will go with Mouse I. Our racing will be the following: Mouse I, Sport Goodyear (Dallas Rules), and our special "Jerry Who" Race.

Racing and Carrier will be Saturday 3 September. Stunt and Scale will be on Sunday 4 September.

Thanks,  Pat
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2022, 10:29:57 PM »
I want to thank everyone for their help. AMA emailed me a .pdf of the 2022-2023 C/L Racing rules today.

We will go with Mouse I. Our racing will be the following: Mouse I, Sport Goodyear (Dallas Rules), and our special "Jerry Who" Race.

Racing and Carrier will be Saturday 3 September. Stunt and Scale will be on Sunday 4 September.

Thanks,  Pat

Ok… What is the special “Jerry Who” race???

Paul

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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2022, 01:13:52 PM »
The "Jerry Who" race is a memorial sport race to honor a past club member. The rules are below. We welcome all to our contest, Saturday and Sunday the 3rd and 4th of September.

Jerry Who Memorial Sport Race:
Airplane:
A reproduction of one of the following kits: Sig: Skyray .35,
Goldberg: Buster, Shoestring and Cosmic Wind, Top Flite: Flite Streak (kit or ARF),
Brodak: Flite Streak, Lightening Streak, Galaxy, Super Clown, Buster and Original
Tomahawk, Estes: Stuntin’ Ringmaster 35 Pro, Sterling: Ringmaster (either version),
Yak 9 and P51, J&J Sales: Ukey .35, Golden State: Yak 9, RSM: Miss Sarah and OTS
Ringmaster and TCI: Firecat. PDK LLC: Flite Streak, Ringmaster and Yak 9.
The model is to be built as designed. Structural modifications are allowed such as
cheek cowls. This means that the airfoil, wing shape, size, moments, tail surfaces,
canopy, rudder, fin and fuselage outline must be as originally designed. Model must
ROG, landing gear is required, however the original design may be modified as to the
number and location of wheels used.
Engine:
Stock Fox Stunt .35, Permitted alterations: Needle valve/spray bar, bolts. No metal
removed or added, No Hemi heads, button heads, stuffer back plates etc. Claiming rule
equal to suggested retail price of new Fox Stunt .35.
Props:
Props to be 9-6 or 9-7 wood or plastic commercially available. Only re-work allowed is
for balancing and removing molding burrs.
Lines:
.015" min. dia. braided, no solids. 60 ‘ +/- 6" long. Pull test: 35#. Fuel tank: 2 oz. tank
suggested, no pressure, vents may be directed forward, fuel must enter tank through
1/8 dia. tubing.
Race:
100 laps, 2 pit stops minimum, flown 3 up. No hot fingers, shutoffs or fast fills. The
Contest Director may disqualify any entrant who in his opinion is not keeping with the
spirit or intent of this racing event. Arguing with the contest director or any judges is
grounds for immediate disqualification.
This is supposed to be a fun event. Let’s keep it that way.

Pat
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2022, 01:53:38 PM »
Ok… What is the special “Jerry Who” race???

Paul

   Pat King already spelled out the particulars on the race. Jerry "Who" was Jerry Meyers, who was a really nice guy and tons of fun to be around, besides being a good racer in his own right. I used to see Jerry at the SIG contests and he would help run SIG's version of this race for Skyray .35s. Jerry used to fly R/C some also, and one year they awarded  him a special transmitter, which was a vintage EK-Logictrol  4 channel radio with some EX-Just handles attached to the control sticks!. The "who" part came from a story, and I hope I get it correct, where he was getting into an elevator at the hotel for a NATS or some other event, and former World Champion Pattern Flier Hanno Prettner was on the sane elevator. Jerry recognized him and announced "Hey your Hanno Prettner! Pleased to meet you! I'm Jerry Meyer" and stuck out his hand to shake hands and Hanno looked at him and asked " Jerry Who?"" And the rest is history once the story got around. If there is anyone that needs to correct me on any of this, feel free to do so. I miss Jerry and think of him often.
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2022, 04:45:28 PM »
Yes Jerry was one of the greats in CL racing.    A few years before he left us he said he felt like he was being excepted as part of the racing community.  He was a class act and ready to help any body.   D>K :(
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2022, 04:37:52 PM »
 Claiming rule,
 equal to suggested retail price of new Fox Stunt .35.

Pat
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  Mecoa has them listed at $185. Might be a good way to get top $ for my engine  S?P
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2022, 07:58:15 PM »
Big difference, Pat, is that nobody flies Mouse II, only Mouse I

     I want to see Class II Mouse, two guys with TeeDees, and the third with a Shuriken. From behind a solid transparent barrier.

      Brett

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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2022, 01:22:52 PM »
that actually happened at the Nats  the last year 42 ft lines were used for mouse 2.. one shuriken,one Trivin home built doing 100mph and the TD about 75 or 80 .luckily we had 3 good pilots and we finished the complete 200 laps. the TD did a good job of staying out of the way. the TD guy had to keep running around the outside of the other two. i think it was the last time a TD made a final . 
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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2022, 04:07:26 PM »
We ran a Cyclon here in Mouse II. Tiny glass toothpick on the front. The problem was the required pit stop--with the tiny glass toothpick. I ran a Mouse I on Mouse II lines against him. He smoked me on airspeed, but gave it all back and more during the pits. We ran these two against each other all season. The wins split out about 50/50. But by the time you get to the Nats, everybody better have their equipment sorted out, so you wouldn't expect a TD to win. I have also seen a little Pico .049 that was a screamin' jewel. If you can keep the crank in one piece.

Dave

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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2022, 12:01:06 AM »
We ran a Cyclon here in Mouse II. Tiny glass toothpick on the front. The problem was the required pit stop--with the tiny glass toothpick. I ran a Mouse I on Mouse II lines against him. He smoked me on airspeed, but gave it all back and more during the pits. We ran these two against each other all season. The wins split out about 50/50. But by the time you get to the Nats, everybody better have their equipment sorted out, so you wouldn't expect a TD to win. I have also seen a little Pico .049 that was a screamin' jewel. If you can keep the crank in one piece.

Dave

   In the spirit of full disclosure, it's all magic to me, because while I am pretty certain I could build a competitive airplane for these events, I would have *zero chance* of flying it safely. I was failing to keep up with a Tee Dee 1/2A combat plane, until, mercifully, the crankshaft broke - almost 50 years ago!   My high-speed capabilities have only gone one direction since then.

     Brett

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Re: C/L Racing Rules needed
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2022, 07:42:19 AM »
then u become a Pit Monkey like the rest of us old farts
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