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Title: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on September 03, 2010, 01:59:54 PM
Been working on my ARC Pathfinder and decided I wasn't real happy with the horns. Some kind of corroded white metal...Anyway I order some real US horns from the Randy man. Guess what? (you already know, I'll bet...har, har!)
3/32nd of an inch is .0937. Chinese 3/32 of an inch is .0999 or something. So I'm not going to rip it's heart out to replace the BC to flap pushrod.

Does anyone know the mm equivalent of .099 so I can drill out the horn?


W.
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: wwwarbird on September 03, 2010, 02:18:32 PM
 Better yet Ward-O, drill'er out and use a ball link instead of a clevis. y1
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Rob Killick on September 03, 2010, 02:27:22 PM
Hi Ward ,

Try this ...

http://www.mrt-wheels.com/conversion%20chart.htm

A little , but not a lot of help .

Rob K.
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Michael Boucher on September 03, 2010, 02:46:25 PM
.099" is equal to 2.5146 millimeters.    H^^
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Tim Wescott on September 03, 2010, 02:48:25 PM
2.5mm / (25.4 mm/inch) = 0.0984 inches.

It's gotta be 2.5mm.  Music wire seems to run a bit big, sometimes, so if the wire is nominally 2.5mm it may actually be 0.099".  Fortunately drills usually drill a bit bigger than their rated size, so a 2.5mm should work.

Can you open up the hole with a jeweler's rat-tail file?
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: wwwarbird on September 03, 2010, 03:08:17 PM
...or you can get out your 2.5146 mm drill bit. :##
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Dick Pacini on September 03, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
Ward, if you are unhappy with the product, let Brodak know.  They are good people and service oriented.

Checking over my new P40, I measured the horns and also came up with .099.  My many years in manufacturing made me realize they used 2.5 mm coated wire.
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: W.D. Roland on September 03, 2010, 07:03:22 PM
Harbor Freight has Metric drill bits, loose in package so mike them to be sure the right one is grabbed!
 Decent enough quality for most stuff.

David
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Garf on September 03, 2010, 07:54:46 PM
Try a #39 wire gage size drill bit.
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Dave Adamisin on September 03, 2010, 08:44:04 PM
...or you can get out your 2.5146 mm drill bit. :##
Wait a minute. The guy who sold me mine said it was the only one..............
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Dallas Hanna on September 03, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
Try a #39 wire gage size drill bit.

Yep Phil.  Another good chart here.  Worth hanging on the wall.   Every modeler should have a set of number drills.

http://www.classicfasteners.com.au/TechData/letdrill.pdf

HH

Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Geoff Goodworth on September 04, 2010, 05:48:14 AM
Ward, et al.

Herb's little chart is great for the shop wall but for inside, at the computer, look at a little program called Versaverter.
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on September 04, 2010, 07:09:45 AM
Ah, rocket scientists, guitar players, and machinists...

Thanks troops!


W.
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Paul Smith on September 04, 2010, 09:07:59 AM
This my local chop,

http://www.metricsunlimited.com/

Metrics Unlimited. 

Bolts, nuts, drills, you name it.
English, French, numbered, SWG, conversion charts,,,, 
Take in a stange fastener and they'll ID it and have some in stock. 

I wouldn't worry about that 3rd decimal accurarcy stuff, unless you're fitting a piston.
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: john e. holliday on September 04, 2010, 10:28:35 AM
Why dril out the horn if using ball links?  I have been tapping mine for what ever machine screw the ball link has.  Using sockets heads screwed into the horn and a locking nut makes for a solid connection.   H^^
Title: Re: Chinese 3/32nd @#$%&
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on September 04, 2010, 01:15:42 PM
The pushrod coming off the BC had a 90 degree bend at the flap horn. Didn't want to make a MaGilla  HB~> out of this thing so a 10 minute trip to ACE is the place and 3 bucks for a # 40 (Chinese 3/32nd) drill and I'm back in business. Yes Doc, the elevator horn will be a threaded ball link!

Tanks all.... :D


Ward-O