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Offline Paul Seeley

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Getting back in the swing
« on: October 10, 2016, 08:47:52 AM »
Hi folks

After many years chasing free flight models I'm just about to get back into C/L  ;D (I flew C/L for several years before the lure of running across the countryside rather than staying in the same spot proved too much temptation)

So after confirming yesterday with a friends model that I was still able to run a tank dry without falling over I'm looking at some projects for the coming months ready for next year
I already have a couple of combat models to play with in the meantime and long term I'm aiming to get into Stunt again hence -

First up will be a 40 sized profile model.
My original intention was to build a Fancherised Twister with an OS 40 LA for motive power, but I came across an article for a very similar model by Jim Armour who 'Fancherised' (If he doesn't mind) the Twisters rival the Top Flite Tutor. (the relevant details can be found in July 1988 Model Aviation I believe) I've got almost enough info with the article and a set of rib templates to start cutting parts. What I'm lacking is the nose length and fin size.
Anyone care to furnish me with the details? ???

Once that is up and running I'm probably going to go down the route of a Gesieke Nobler for Sunday best, which is a design I've always liked the look of and is that little bit different from the current crop of ARF Noblers that are about.

Cheers for your input

Paul

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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2016, 10:09:29 AM »
Welcome back to the world of dizziness as most people think it is.  You will love the Gieske Nobler.  I built my version from the kit and have the UHP arf version in the box still on the shelf. 
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Offline Paul Seeley

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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2016, 11:37:40 AM »
Cheers guys

Yep I noticed the Twister I used on Sunday had a few repairs to the fin base Ty  :)! thanks for the suggested nose length, I'll get the plan drawn up over the next couple of days

Thanks John - how can you resist, just leaving it sitting on the shelf . . . .

toodlepip
Paul

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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 12:49:40 PM »
You need to see my shop.   I need a small warehouse.
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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2016, 01:28:07 PM »
You need to see my shop.   I need a small warehouse.

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Offline mike londke

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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2016, 05:42:21 PM »
Call Walter Umland and buy one of his laser cut kits.  All the hard work is done for you.    http://www.builtrightflyright.com/   http://www.builtrightflyright.com/2014/kits/FTwister2014.htm
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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2016, 11:45:45 PM »
Oooh there's some tempters on there Mike :o

But I'm going to stick with the original plan I think . . .

Thanks for the link

Paul

Offline Steve Helmick

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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 04:16:21 PM »
Well...The original TF kit Tutor is a pretty small airplane, especially for a heavy donk like the .40LA. You may not know that the .46LA is actually slightly lighter than the .40LA. Same size externally, bigger hollow parts...plus the .46 is easier to get to run properly.

The Twister, being a bit bigger to start with, can easily be stretched a few more inches by just cutting out a couple of extra ribs and adding some real wing tips. That would make it much more suitable for the .40/.46LA.

A Brodak kit "Profile Oriental" is another option. If you want to "scratch" build, you can buy plans from Brodak, and also laser cut wing ribs. It's about the size of a stretched/Fancherized Twister. Also Classic Legal here, but I wouldn't venture a guess about your regulations.

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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2016, 04:58:18 PM »
if by fin you mean the vertical stab, make it look nice,, no offset and be done,,
if you mean the horizantal , make it 25 % of the wing area, split 60% stab and 40% elevators and that will get you in the ballpark.
if you make the motor bearers,, "maple rails" to all the way back to the wing leading edge, then its an easy matter to shorten the nose once its assembled by hacking it off, you can lenghten the nose by moving the motor forward and then filling in the empty space to the spinner with light wood. That way you can assemble the plane, check the balance, and adjust as needed... Just a thought..

make it simple, straight, and rigid,, but dont be a dumby like me and make it pretty , well not to pretty anyway,, you will want to be able to fix it easily..

the Twister fancherized is a great start place , it survives well, easy to repair, andiwth the Fancher mods it a great platform. Build two or three, or go with the Skyray 35 and do the same thing, but the Skyray will want a 25 or 20,,
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Re: Getting back in the swing
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2016, 01:22:20 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Absolutely with you Steve - great fun sitting down watching the mass launch you've just set off  y1

I'll keep a look out for the 46 too. The model I was copying used a .40 in a stretched Tutor with a 540" wing.

Thanks for the suggestions Mark (I'll also make sure she's purty . . . .but not too purty) ;D

Paul

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