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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Billy Fields on March 22, 2019, 06:36:50 AM
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This might be or is a dumb question but is the castor oil sold in pharmacy the same oil as used in glow fuel?
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I used it to make a. Batch of diesel fuel a long time ago..seemed to work ok
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I used it to make a. Batch of diesel fuel a long time ago..seemed to work ok
Thanks. Just wondering if I can add it to a gallon of glow fuel to run in the older Enya or McCoy engines.
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I'd agree with the others. Both drug store and Sig work. I'd go with Sig and here's a link:
https://sigmfg.com/products/sig-castor-oil?variant=390077448201
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i use Klotz BeNol, it's straight castor, and has that Klotz smell!
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I have had an order for castor oil from Sig for over a month. It supposed to be on back order. I called to confirm it also....Gene
PS, I also have used BeNol, but I see Tower no longer offers it.
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McMaster-Carr has it.
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McMaster-Carr has it.
I purchased castor from McMaster-Carr on the recommendation of some clown from the northwest....
Good product.
https://www.mcmaster.com/1025k11?fbclid=IwAR0y125SDOnAzueNpwu45Kg8axrXZutxxkWZsZuJakzaYzoj9opEbKjYZ6I
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Drug store castor oil can get rather expensive. Probably because of manufacturing refinements. Remember, the pharmacy castor is used for medicinal purposes (Ugh! Foul taste!)
Do mothers still give it to their kids? My mom did!
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I add this to up the oil in R/C fuels
works for me
https://www.bulkapothecary.com/raw-ingredients/bulk-natural-oils/castor-oil/
Fred Q
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I've been using this successfully to doctor up high nitro, low oil fuel for my AP .061s, Norvel .074s, and my Cox Reedies:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Humco-Castor-Oil-USP-6-fl-oz/10417573
The price is good at in store price of $2.64 for 6 oz.
BeNol through Wally world was $16 per quart.
I bought BeNol for a side-by-side comparison, but I don't expect much difference.
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i use Klotz BeNol, it's straight castor, and has that Klotz smell!
Those two things can't both be true :)
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I've used pharmacy castor oil with complete success. It seems that castor is castor, just varying grades of it. Like olive oil, virgin olive oil, extra virgin, etc. it's all olive oil.
Gary
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The only place I can get fuel is 37 miles from me. So I went to this shop today for the first time to see if he had fuel and he did. He carry's Byron fuels 15% with 20% oil and he also had Byron Originals lube booster on hand 9 bucks for a 12oz bottle so I got that too. Thanks for the help. I'm now in good shape for more flying.
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I've used pharmacy castor oil with complete success. It seems that castor is castor, just varying grades of it. Like olive oil, virgin olive oil, extra virgin, etc. it's all olive oil.
Gary
To bad we cant use olive oil I have all kinds of flavors of that stuff. lol
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Hi Billy:
I have been told that one can indeed use olive oil in our fuels! It may not be as good as castor oil but will work just fine! It is used around the world in Diesel engines. Just don't run the engine as hard as one would with castor. Google the two oils and see for yourself.
Be well,
Frank McCune
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With the high-detergent action of synthetic oils, I would not be at all concerned with using castor oil from either the drug store or Wally World to boost the lube percentage. I might not want to run fuel with 100% castor over the long term, but a gallon or two wouldn't be a problem. If it was, a few runs of all-synthetic fuel would get rid of any accumulations of muck. y1 Steve
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Bulk Apothecary has also worked well for me, and very affordable.
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At $17.00, actually $16 and change and less if bought in quantity, a gallon Bulk Apothecary can't be beat. I've used almost 10 gallons of their castor mixing my own fuel and it works perfectly. A lot cleaner than Sig, who bought all Foxes castor. Be sure to tell them to ship without a signature upon delivery.
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Bulk Apothecary prices looks good but the shipping cost hurts it. For 1 gallon at my door is 30.00 and for 15oz is 13.50 Im going to stop by Ace hardware today after flying I think I remember seeing it there or Home Depot.
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You can look for a shop that supports power sports especially go kart racing they will have it. There is a class that is runs methanol and castor.
The shop also cells methanol so it could get nitro locally I would be all set
Some snowmobile shops, ATV or off road motor cycle shops will have it too.
https://cometkartsales.com/Burris-HiRev-Castor-Oil-Pint.html
(https://cometkartsales.com/Burris-HiRev-Castor-Oil-Pint.html)
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Like almost everything else, this is not a new subject and has been covered in depth here before. Do a search on it and you'll find a lot of information on what the differences are and the manufacturing processes. . I have used it from the drug store before, and if in a pinch, look in the baking department of the grocery store. Lots of old baking recipes call for castor oil. It's good for when you are in a pinch, but is expensive that way when you need to add 8 or 10 ounces. My older brother used to work in the foam, chemical, and plastic industry and it is used there also. He brought me 5 gallons one time when I was mixing large amounts of mole repellent.One of the differences is in how much it has been refined and degummed. I am of the persuasion that for high oil content needs, some of the total amount should be a synthetic, and Klotz is my favorite. Helps keep the plug and rings cleaner if it's a ringed engine and less varnish build up, which WILL happen over time if you run it a lot and all castor.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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The ultimate castor (well, not straight but quite heavily modified) is the Racing Castor 927. It's quite popular in highest level F1C, and those people really care what pil they use.
It burns so clean that some teams mix some benol in it to get that nice light tan to piston top.
I mix it 1:3 with Klotz 189 synthetic. L
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S&W fuel sells a "Racing Castor Oil" price not bad: http://www.s-whobby.com/spl-products.html Just scroll down to find it: D>K
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Just came from the hardware store. They have a liquid mole repellent that you attach to your garden hose. It is 32 ounces and on sale for $14.99, two dollars off. The ingredients say "Castor oil.....100%."
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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No wonder the moles ravaged my flying circle except for the take off area.
If you distribute the crashes correctly, could solve the problem completely.
Brett
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Hmmm. This may explain a lot of things. At our last race, after I got into a line tangle and crashed, I found a dead mole on my wing. Kind of odd since I crashed on the pavement....but one of the guys sent me a picture, and pictures don't lie....
Dave
PS--I need something that works on squirrels and possums. I bet if I could get 'em to stand still, and I got a spoonful down 'em real quick, they "go" away.
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Bulk Apothecary +1 They also sell the bees wax and Shea butter I use in my home made lip balm.
Motorman,
What part of the airplane gets the lip balm?
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I knew a guy from back in the mid '70's. He had escaped from Communist Cuba. He told me they didn't have access to nitro methane and used
wood alcohol with 3 in 1 oil to fly C/L. Said the engines ran fine. I don't remember the ratio but I am going to test this in the future, no nitro
straight up methanol and 3 in 1. I have a ratty engine I will try this on. Thanks for bringing up the
subject about castor. I had almost forgotten about this!
George Albo
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I knew a guy from back in the mid '70's. He had escaped from Communist Cuba. He told me they didn't have access to nitro methane and used
wood alcohol with 3 in 1 oil to fly C/L. Said the engines ran fine. I don't remember the ratio but I am going to test this in the future, no nitro
straight up methanol and 3 in 1. I have a ratty engine I will try this on. Thanks for bringing up the
subject about castor. I had almost forgotten about this!
George Albo
On a similar note, the late Gary Frost would make yearly visits to the Philippines to visit his wife's relatives, and took some model stuff to keep there so he could fly on his visits there. He could take just about everything he needed in checked luggage but had to figure out fuel. When he got there the first time, he checked the local stores and found that they carried HEET gas line anti freeze! He couldn't figure out why they had it, but gave that a try in a similar mixture with the SIG castor he packed in his luggage and low and behold it ran OK. Not world beating performance but it started easy and ran OK. Makes you wonder what else might be out there!
On the mole related issue. Mike Willman and his Dad Ray were hot competitors in Carrier during the 60's , 70's, and 80's and did a lot of engine testing and break in in their back yard. When the participation fell off, after a few years he discovered moles in his back tad one day. I remembered hearing about castor being a good mole repellent so he broke out an engine he wanted to test run and the old trusty test stand that was sorta low to the ground and spent the day running engines. he walked down the runs and said that they didn't come back, so he now mixes up some juice in a pump sprayer and gives his yard a regular dose if he doesn't plan on running engines!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
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Those two things can't both be true :)
Ok.... they add a little bit of their red dye which is what give Klotz the smell... so, castor with a little bit of red dye and smell good stuff in it ;-)
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Drug store castor oil can get rather expensive. Probably because of manufacturing refinements. Remember, the pharmacy castor is used for medicinal purposes (Ugh! Foul taste!)
Do mothers still give it to their kids? My mom did!
Castor oil is usable to stop caugh, as well.
You won't dare to caugh :)
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Bulk Apothecary prices looks good but the shipping cost hurts it. For 1 gallon at my door is 30.00 and for 15oz is 13.50 Im going to stop by Ace hardware today after flying I think I remember seeing it there or Home Depot.
I bought 40 pounds of castor (5 gallons) and shipping was $19.12 to south Louisiana.
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128 oz / 6 oz = 21.3 X $3+/- =$63+/- bucks a gallon.....wow!.....pharmacy not so gud a deal vs Riches, VP, Torco, Sig, Bulk Apothecary, McMaster, or Tower Castor oil by the quart of gallon
I blend a lot using Sig Castor Sig or Tower Klotz and/or BenOl or Technlube, or UCON LB 625 ( good synthetic I get from Riche's)....
hint #1 no hazmat shipping fees on lubes...
hint #2 Randy Smith sells a very good Aero 1 additive I believe in and it is not expensive
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You can look for a shop that supports power sports especially go kart racing they will have it. There is a class that is runs methanol and castor.
The shop also cells methanol so it could get nitro locally I would be all set
Some snowmobile shops, ATV or off road motor cycle shops will have it too.
https://cometkartsales.com/Burris-HiRev-Castor-Oil-Pint.html
(https://cometkartsales.com/Burris-HiRev-Castor-Oil-Pint.html)
Wow. Comet is where I got fuel ingredients in high school, almost 60 years ago. Cool guy.