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Title: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Larry Fernandez on March 02, 2020, 07:34:03 PM: Where can I purchase carbon fiber mat?
My supply is running low and I cannot remember where I purchased my last stash.

Larry Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Tim Just on March 02, 2020, 09:52:13 PM: I get mine from Fiberglast.com
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: John Lindberg on March 03, 2020, 06:05:39 AM: I have good results from this vendor I found on Ebay, fast delivery:https://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fiber-Cloth-Fabric-Veil-Chopped-Mat-35-5-20oz-7gsm/131493767816?_trksid=p2046732.c100040.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107095009%26meid%3D55600bd2436c42f88199f2f4d15e63e4%26pid%3D100040%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D131493767816 Here's another vendor, started by a Free Flighter, I believe #^ http://www.cstsales.com/a-carbon-fiber-tissue-veil.html Not sure why the first vendor is not coming through, just type in Carbon Veil on "search" on Ebay to find it.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 03, 2020, 08:38:19 AM: ACP Composites. You want .2 ounce CF tissue, sometimes called "veil". I did a search, .2 ounce carbon fiber veil on Google and it came up immediately.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Larry Wong on March 03, 2020, 10:36:51 AM: ACP at Livermore airport, that’s were I get mine.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Larry Fernandez on March 03, 2020, 04:12:03 PM: Thanks guys!!
Very much appreciate your help and response.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Fredvon4 on March 04, 2020, 08:37:11 AM: larry did you get my e-mail or pm? i forget which I sent

I have a yard each of .02/.03/.05 35.5 inch wide ACP sourced.....btw ACP is cheapest out there

I paid 15 will take 10 each roll
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Larry Fernandez on March 04, 2020, 12:00:57 PM: Quote from: Fredvon4 on March 04, 2020, 08:37:11 AM
larry did you get my e-mail or pm? i forget which I sent

I have a yard each of .02/.03/.05 35.5 inch wide ACP sourced.....btw ACP is cheapest out there

I paid 15 will take 10 each roll

Thanks Fred
I bought a couple of yards of .02 material from ACP yesterday.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Fredvon4 on March 04, 2020, 12:22:49 PM: good buy....the stuff is very robust ....btw---- epoxy...heavy but best strength...Randolph dope ok a little lighter---and easiest is minwax water based polyurethane...I have zero problems with AnyThing on top of minwax poly oil or water
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Howard Rush on March 04, 2020, 04:01:52 PM: Jim Aron said that ACP had two types: a nice-looking one and an ugly one. He said to get the ugly one. ACP told me that Jim got their old part # MC-03C. Their new part number is VL-CF-0.2-1. Has anybody gotten the new part number? Is it the same stuff as the old part number?
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: BYU on March 04, 2020, 04:52:28 PM: Quote from: Howard Rush on March 04, 2020, 04:01:52 PM
Jim Aron said that ACP had two types: a nice-looking one and an ugly one. He said to get the ugly one. ACP told me that Jim got their old part # MC-03C. Their new part number is VL-CF-0.2-1. Has anybody gotten the new part number? Is it the same stuff as the old part number?

I would have thought by now (after all these years) you would know better than to trust that Aron guy.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Howard Rush on March 04, 2020, 05:13:36 PM: Yep. Next thing you know, he'll be telling me that he's building a profile B-36 stunt plane.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Alan Resinger on March 05, 2020, 07:36:21 AM: Howard, the CF veil that Chris, Ark and I got recently was marked VL CF 0.2 previous part number MC 03 C. Jusr order .2oz from ACP.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Mike Haverly on March 05, 2020, 08:14:28 AM: What Alan said.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Howard Rush on March 08, 2020, 09:05:02 PM: Quote from: Alan Resinger on March 05, 2020, 07:36:21 AM
Howard, the CF veil that Chris, Ark and I got recently was marked VL CF 0.2 previous part number MC 03 C. Jusr order .2oz from ACP.

Before your response above, I attached the following to my ACP order: "You had two forms of this .2 oz. tissue. The one I want is the uglier of the two, per Jim Aron. He said that Justin will know which one." They responded, "I was able to take a look at this and see that Jim Aron used to purchase our old part # MC-03C. However we have since changed to new part numbers and packages. We currently only carry the 1 .2 oz CF veil, the one you selected however now it comes in the following options:

VL-CF-0.2-1 (1 Yard Pack)

VL-CF-0.2-3 (3 Yard Pack)

VL-CF-0.2-P (per Yard over 4 yards)"

My response: "Is VL-CF-0.2 the same as MC-03C? Please ask Justin. If it is, I would like a 3-yard pack, VL-CF-0.2-3, please. If VL-CF-0.2 is the same as the other stuff you used to have that is not the MC-03C, I don’t want any."

I haven't heard from them since. Either the current stuff is the substandard stuff, or they don't want to mess with me.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: frank williams on March 09, 2020, 10:13:22 AM: Fiberglast has a one day sale today ... ends midnight 1/10/20 EST. 20% off.

If you could get an order of 25yd + , you could get down to ~$7.30 per yd.

https://www.fibreglast.com/product/Carbon_Fiber_Veil_1064/carbon_fiber_all
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Howard Rush on March 09, 2020, 12:49:29 PM: I have a psychological problem with carbon tissue. Whenever I use it, it turns into a mess. I usually sand it off. The only way I will keep it on is if I'm assured that the stuff I'm using is the best available, and I just gotta try harder. Therefore, I want to make sure I have the good stuff. Thanks for your tips.

It's probably all the same. I suspect that carbon tissue, like that blue fillet stuff, is a hoax invented by Deep Stunt and propagated by the fake stunt media.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Gerald Arana on March 09, 2020, 01:38:20 PM: I suspect that carbon tissue, like that blue fillet stuff, is a hoax invented by Deep Stunt and propagated by the fake stunt media.
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Good one Howard!

Jerry
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Paul Walker on March 09, 2020, 01:55:29 PM: I purchased 10 yards of VL-CF-0.2-P. Has been used on 2 airplanes now. Works great.

Goes down easy, and does not clump up. Just don't do more than introduce the clear on the brush to it the first time.
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Dave_Trible on March 09, 2020, 02:56:48 PM: Quote from: frank williams on March 09, 2020, 10:13:22 AM
Fiberglast has a one day sale today ... ends midnight 1/10/20 EST. 20% off.

If you could get an order of 25yd + , you could get down to ~$7.30 per yd.

https://www.fibreglast.com/product/Carbon_Fiber_Veil_1064/carbon_fiber_all
I just ordered three yards, only got 10% off but thats OK. Before I've purchased from CST. I have best luck applying it with a mix of about 20% dope and 80% thinner. It's very easy to sand when dry before applying any more dope.

Dave
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Ron Vargo on March 18, 2020, 06:38:04 PM: Just got some from brodak. They have 0.5 and 0.2 carbon mat
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Brett Buck on March 18, 2020, 07:44:23 PM: Quote from: Dave_Trible on March 09, 2020, 02:56:48 PM
I just ordered three yards, only got 10% off but thats OK. Before I've purchased from CST. I have best luck applying it with a mix of about 20% dope and 80% thinner. It's very easy to sand when dry before applying any more dope.

Almost too easy - in that state you can scrape it off with the edge of the paper, if you aren't careful.

Brett
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Dave_Trible on March 19, 2020, 06:26:45 AM: Yes you have to be careful. Another thin coat of dope before sanding would be better. Once you get several coats on it's a tough sand. I've been putting on two layers on most of the fuselage over moulded shells etc., and three in certain areas. After that you could almost pull the balsa out if you you could. Very stiff and light.

Dave
Title: Re: Carbon Fiber Mat
Post by: Howard Rush on April 04, 2020, 05:31:12 PM: I got the new ACP stuff. It's the best I've used, thanks to Paul's advice. Still, though, the emperor's new clothes look a little coarse to me. I think he'd look more regal in silk.