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Title: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on December 26, 2019, 02:57:51 AM
Found these among some (as usual, great) photos from Elwyn Aud of the Brodak 2016 event.

Can you identify them?  Builder, designer, specs, power, performance?

Thanks!


Dennis
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Jim Damerell on December 26, 2019, 03:29:00 AM
The bottom two are Rick Huff's Pathfinder twin, designed by Gordon Delaney. Rick added the retracts. Rick's twin flew awesome, and got him a lot of trophies, and into Expert.
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on December 26, 2019, 03:43:33 AM
The bottom two are Rick Huff's Pathfinder twin, designed by Gordon Delaney. Rick added the retracts. Rick's twin flew awesome, and got him a lot of trophies, and into Expert.

Thanks Jim, it looks great!  I'd like to see how and where the wheels retract …


Dennis
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on December 26, 2019, 03:47:52 AM
I would think the Bf 110 to be a basis for a good semi-scale stunter.  Lots of wing area, centerline of wing and tail are relatively close.

Has anyone pursued it?


Dennis


Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Elwyn Aud on December 26, 2019, 10:16:13 AM
I believe both planes are Rick Huff's. The squadron codes on the Bf-110 appear to be his initials.
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on December 26, 2019, 10:41:26 AM
Thanks Elwyn, and Thanks for all the photos you provide too!


Dennis
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Elwyn Aud on December 26, 2019, 11:19:41 AM
  I'd like to see how and where the wheels retract …
Dennis
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Looks like the wheels just retract along the side of the fuselage and the exterior of the wing.
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Rick_Huff on December 26, 2019, 02:09:59 PM
Dennis,
Yes those were mine.  As Jim wrote, the Pathfinder Twin was built according to plans except it was changed to electric power and electric retracts added.  The BF 110 was my design and it was the basis of an "Appearance Point" article in the May/June 2016 Stunt News (where you can find some of the specs).  It also sported electric retracts and power.  I'm in the process of building another profile twin and plan to build another (and larger) BF 110 next building season.

Rick
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: TigreST on December 26, 2019, 02:39:01 PM
Looks like the landing gear mains retract and rotate 90degree's ala F4U-1 Corsair/Warhawk.  Of course the Corsair and Warhawk did not have the Cicada assist option.  ;D

T.
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Trostle on December 26, 2019, 02:56:03 PM
I would think the Bf 110 to be a basis for a good semi-scale stunter.  Lots of wing area, centerline of wing and tail are relatively close.

Has anyone pursued it?


Dennis

I do not want to distract from Rick Huff's superb rendition of the 110 which looks like it was built for stunt while at the same time would do quite well in sport scale competition. But, the question was asked if "anyone has pursued it?" Dennis Ashby did a really nice semiscale stunter of the Bf 110 published in the the June 1980 issue of Model Aviation.  OS 25's for power.  About 60" span, 600 sq in area, 80 oz.  There was also a smaller profile version in Aeromodeller in December 1972.

Keith
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: bill bischoff on December 26, 2019, 03:21:54 PM
Steve Ashby?
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: wwwarbird on December 26, 2019, 06:54:05 PM
I would think the Bf 110 to be a basis for a good semi-scale stunter.  Lots of wing area, centerline of wing and tail are relatively close.

Has anyone pursued it?


 Yes, at least once, see the photo you attached.  ;D
Title: Re: Can You Identify These? Brodak Fly-In 2016
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on December 26, 2019, 10:04:35 PM
Yes, at least once, see the photo you attached.  ;D


 LL~ LL~ LL~

OK, ya got me Wayne - but the photos are small for these old eyes (needing cataract surgery, in fact, hopefully next month).  I wasn't sure if the 110 was built for scale, sport, stunt …

Thanks for all the info, guys, and kudos to you, Rick!  You get my recognition award for the day for the innovation and ingenuity seen here.  How does the Bf 110 fly?

Does anyone have a copy of the June 1980 Model Aviation they'd like to sell?


Dennis