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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Paul Taylor on March 23, 2014, 01:04:16 PM

Title: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Paul Taylor on March 23, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
Can someone post a picture or brand of crimp tool and source for handle cables?
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Perry Rose on March 23, 2014, 01:18:03 PM
One of the  leadout kits had a crimp tool included.  Two 1/8" drills and vise grips works also.
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Steve Hines on March 23, 2014, 01:22:35 PM
klein crimping and cutting. this is what I use at work, around $30. you should be able to find something at harbor freight for a lot cheeper.

Steve
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Avaiojet on March 23, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
Is this what you're talking about?

Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Paul Smith on March 23, 2014, 01:55:25 PM
No.

What is needed is a SWAGGING set which is the size of a big set of bolt cutters (universal master key).

The tool is under the counter at Home Depot.  You can take your handle (and I suggest a good set of wire cutters) to Home Depot and buy a length of 1/16" cable and a pair of swagging tubes, total cost, about $3.  Then swage the ends right in the store with the tool provided for that purpose.

Unlike mere crimping, swagging drives the soft swage tube into the fibers of the stranded cable, thereby fully distributing the load.
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Paul Taylor on March 23, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
No.

What is needed is a SWAGGING set which is the size of a big set of bolt cutters (universal master key).

The tool is under the counter at Home Depot.  You can take your handle (and I suggest a good set of wire cutters) to Home Depot and buy a length of 1/16" cable and a pair of swagging tubes, total cost, about $3.  Then swage the ends right in the store with the tool provided for that purpose.

Unlike mere crimping, swagging drives the soft swage tube into the fibers of the stranded cable, thereby fully distributing the load.
Thats it. Need to check Harbor Fright to see if they have a pair, and cables and tubes.
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Greg McCoy on March 23, 2014, 02:08:48 PM
No.

What is needed is a SWAGGING set which is the size of a big set of bolt cutters (universal master key).

The tool is under the counter at Home Depot.  You can take your handle (and I suggest a good set of wire cutters) to Home Depot and buy a length of 1/16" cable and a pair of swagging tubes, total cost, about $3.  Then swage the ends right in the store with the tool provided for that purpose.

Unlike mere crimping, swagging drives the soft swage tube into the fibers of the stranded cable, thereby fully distributing the load.

What he is describing is a Nicopress tool.

http://www.nicopress.com/T1.htm
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Zuriel Armstrong on March 23, 2014, 02:35:51 PM
Paul,

I have the correct cables and tubes for you.  I had a "Friend" borrow my swag tool.  Obviously not a modeling friend n1
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Dan McEntee on March 23, 2014, 03:01:01 PM
      I just wire wrap my handle cables, much like flying lines, but I do solder them, then heat shrink tubing over them. I wouldn't solder flying lines but don't see the problem with handle cable. Makes the ends much smaller and less prone to the potential for hanging up on each other. Another way to do that is to not make the cable too long. I buy bicycle control cable or what the call "aircraft control cable" at the hardware store, 1/16" diameter, Inspect it often and change if there is ever a question. Of course, hard point handles remove this all from the equation.
   Type at you later,
    Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Paul Smith on March 23, 2014, 04:04:11 PM
What he is describing is a Nicopress tool.

http://www.nicopress.com/T1.htm

EXACTLY !!!

I suggested a way to get around actually BUYING the thing.  If you have a boat store near you you will find a cable-swaging area with cables, swages, and tools bolted down with the intent of using them in the store.
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Gerald Arana on March 23, 2014, 04:31:16 PM
Paul Smith...............You are even cheaper than I am LL~ LL~ LL~

What a great idea. I'm going to try it. y1

Cheers, Jerry
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Geoff Goodworth on March 23, 2014, 04:58:16 PM
I use one that I bought from a fishing tackle store.

It also makes pretty good Z-bends
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: john e. holliday on March 24, 2014, 07:29:47 AM
Well my swaging set came from Carl Shoup.  Bought a set after seeing his set up and results at Denver one year.   It will help increase your grip strength using the swag pliers.
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Paul Taylor on March 26, 2014, 04:07:50 PM
Checked Sears. Guys said he could order me a pair. Heck I could do that if I knew what to order.
The ones at Homedepot one go the 1/16. The cable is smaller.

Still looking...  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Dave_Trible on March 26, 2014, 04:37:51 PM
Paul I made my own tool from some old pliers. JB'd pieces of music wire or clevis ends on the end and crimp away.  On the cable for handles.  Home Depot has a good flexible 1/16" cable that I use. Like a buck or less a foot.
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Greg McCoy on March 30, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
A ball swager comes in handy.

I didn't like the notches on the Sullivan handle, so this is how it was modified. The cable has a ball in the center that fits in an aluminum block, the block is tapped 6-32, all-thread, and a knob. The springs add tension. The ends are Nicopress sleeves.
Title: Re: Cable crimp tool???
Post by: Greg Hart on April 05, 2014, 04:43:08 PM
Here is a very good crimping tool. Buy a nice larger size Quality pair of wire cutters. Get a dremel  cut off wheel. At the nose of the cutter, keeping the pliers closed cut about 3/8 to a 1/4 inch into the tip of the nose of the wire cutter. You will then be able to crimp down not to cut through the crimping tube. Hope this makes since.