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Title: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on November 29, 2023, 07:36:29 AM
Anyone know of a source where I can get the usual colors- red, black, white, orange and yellow for trim purposes? Brodak hasn't any and Sig colors all gone. Amazon zip.  Pints preferred, but 4 ounce will do.. If anyone knows of a local hobby shop with some, please PM me.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Dave_Trible on November 29, 2023, 08:06:17 AM
You can get anything you want in Randolph dope from Aircraft Spruce.  Likely Wicks as well.  You may have to buy quarts.

Dave
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on November 29, 2023, 08:11:27 AM
Thought that'd be an option. But quarts are a lot more than I need. Thanks just the same.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Robert Zambelli on November 29, 2023, 08:25:35 AM
Frank - Brodaks has a huge selection in various sizes and most Randolph colors.
I'm pretty sure all their dope is Randolph's.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Dennis Toth on November 29, 2023, 08:55:00 AM
Frank,
The Sig, Brodak, Randolph Butyrate dopes are all compatible, you can even mix them wet. Same with the thinners, although Brodak and Randolph are quicker to gas off then Sig, but all work with all the Butyrate dopes. Check Brodaks discounted area for small sizes you might need. Also if you call in the order you can have them ship it by ground at a lower rate just a few days extra in transit.

Best,  DennsT

 
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Doug Moisuk on November 29, 2023, 09:17:26 AM
If you buy the three prime colours you can mix most other colours.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Colin McRae on November 29, 2023, 10:10:36 AM
Anyone know of a source where I can get the usual colors- red, black, white, orange and yellow for trim purposes? Brodak hasn't any and Sig colors all gone. Amazon zip.  Pints preferred, but 4 ounce will do.. If anyone knows of a local hobby shop with some, please PM me.


???

I just went to the Brodak website, and they have butyrate dope in stock. And a bunch of common colors. No hobby shops near me sell dope. So, I have to purchase the Brodak dope on line.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on November 29, 2023, 11:16:01 AM
All, if you dig deeper into brodaks site , search and try to select a color to add to your cart, you'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Paul Smith on November 29, 2023, 11:21:14 AM
I gave up and just bought quarts at the local airport store.
They custom mix ALL colors.
A quart is not a bad deal compared to the astronomical price of the tiny jars. 

If you have some other builders in the area you could recover your cost by selling half-pints and four ounce bottles.

Remember, the price of a quart of color dope will only hurt once in your life.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Dave_Trible on November 29, 2023, 12:01:27 PM
I gave up and just bought quarts at the local airport store.
They custom mix ALL colors.
A quart is not a bad deal compared to the astronomical price of the tiny jars. 

If you have some other builders in the area you could recover your cost by selling half-pints and four ounce bottles.

Remember, the price of a quart of color dope will only hurt once in your life.
And I guess we can suppose this won't be the last airplane you'll build.   It usually keeps for years.

Dave
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Colin McRae on November 29, 2023, 01:08:43 PM
All, if you dig deeper into brodaks site , search and try to select a color to add to your cart, you'll see what I mean.

Frank

As a test, I went to the Brodak site again and tried to add a few random colors to my cart (4 oz size). Most were added to the cart, a few were not.

My guess is the colors that don't go to the cart may be out of stock. Brodak is having a 10% off cyber sale all this week. Maybe lots of dope is getting sold.

I would just email them and inquire when the colors you want will be back in stock. Brodak is usually very good to work with.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on November 29, 2023, 03:05:05 PM
Apologies to all who responded.  I have no explanation as to why my cart was not showing paint that I selected. Now it shows jars and pints. Go figure. Thanks, once again.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Paul Smith on November 29, 2023, 03:20:58 PM
And I guess we can suppose this won't be the last airplane you'll build.   It usually keeps for years.

Dave

As I see it.  The current dope will be good as long as you can get lacquer thinner or acetone to desolve it.  Even if it dries rock-hard, it can be saved with some solvent.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Geoff Goodworth on November 29, 2023, 03:59:45 PM
Frank, to err is human, to really stuff things up requires a computer.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Colin McRae on November 29, 2023, 04:15:13 PM
The Brodak website is a little funky. For example, if you wanted three OS A3 glow plugs, but they only have 1 in stock, the 3 you selected won't go to the cart. But if you changed the quantity to 1, it will go to the cart.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Marty Hammersmith on November 29, 2023, 06:50:37 PM
As I see it.  The current dope will be good as long as you can get lacquer thinner or acetone to desolve it.  Even if it dries rock-hard, it can be saved with some solvent.


In general I would agree. However, I do have Stinson Maroon that corroded the Brodak container. It's been in my hands for about 4 years. It came straight from Brodak and was never opened until a week ago. Who knows how old it actually is? I have six or seven other colors that have been fine.
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: GERALD WIMMER on November 30, 2023, 02:30:18 AM
Hello
 I use Randolph dope from Aviation Performance (full size aviation supplier) as most hobby shops in New Zealand no longer stock dope or reasonable quantities of balsa cement. Have to preorder colors and wait but they normally have Nitrate and Butyrate clear in stock.. Have some really old glass bottles that I brought as a teenager that are still okay but the tins rust from the inside at times are it changes color to orange. Hate the smell of the stuff as I get older and use two pack clear when I can like on the Brodak heat shrink fabric.

Regards Gerald 
Title: Re: Butyrate Dope In Colors- No More ?
Post by: Marty Hammersmith on November 30, 2023, 06:51:37 AM
Hello
 I use Randolph dope from Aviation Performance (full size aviation supplier) as most hobby shops in New Zealand no longer stock dope or reasonable quantities of balsa cement. Have to preorder colors and wait but they normally have Nitrate and Butyrate clear in stock.. Have some really old glass bottles that I brought as a teenager that are still okay but the tins rust from the inside at times are it changes color to orange. Hate the smell of the stuff as I get older and use two pack clear when I can like on the Brodak heat shrink fabric.

Regards Gerald

I started using canning jars for my active dope work ala Sparky's videos. Maybe I should transfer my dope inventory to glass as well. I like having it on hand but I'd hate to lose it to can corrosion.