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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Tim Wescott on February 21, 2010, 02:50:10 PM

Title: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Tim Wescott on February 21, 2010, 02:50:10 PM
I finished a Nobler this past November, then before I flew it I started reflecting on the fact that I hadn't flown control line for ages.

So I built a little 1/2A ship -- no plans, just throw parts together until it looks right, stick for fuse, 100 sq in, 4.5oz.  Good thing -- two minutes of flying leaves me dizzy, but I'm getting better!

I'm still wondering if I shouldn't leave the Nobler hanging while I build a bigger profile ship, so things will be easier to repair if the ground jumps up and tries to eat the plane.
Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on February 21, 2010, 02:55:14 PM
Its always nice to have a back-up, or a "re-trainer".  I was out of the hobby about fifteen years and found I got a little bit dizzy the first two flights.  After that I was good to go!  Good luck and how about a pic of your Nobler? H^^
Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Tim Wescott on February 21, 2010, 03:15:50 PM
Its always nice to have a back-up, or a "re-trainer".  I was out of the hobby about fifteen years and found I got a little bit dizzy the first two flights.  After that I was good to go!  Good luck and how about a pic of your Nobler? H^^

I've never flown any sort of a flapped airplane at all, so it wouldn't be a re-trainer at all.  I'm pretty confident that once I get over being dizzy I'd be OK with a flapped 'something', but I don't expect to be so good that I don't have some unscheduled, extra-fast landings.  Something that's easier to repair than the Nobler would be nice.

I had originally intended to just put it together, cover it with an ugly color, go fly, and not care if I reduced it to flinders.  But I underestimated the amount of work that goes into one of those things, and I really didn't expect that pairing black with international orange would look so good.  It's still not a contest winning finish -- it looks good from five feet away and in the pictures, but when you get close you can see embarrassing wrinkles.

http://www.ccwebster.net/robintim/Nobler/
Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Leester on February 21, 2010, 05:04:15 PM
The plane looks great, the colors really go together. Don't worry about the wrinkles, I say the same thing when I look in the mirror.
Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Phil Coopy on February 21, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
When I started back in CL an old CL flyer told me to hold out my arm thumb up, look at it and turn around a few minutes at a time every day.  Worked for me, after awhile I could do it for about five minutes and flying took care of the rest.

No longer dizzy,

Phil
Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Greg L Bahrman on February 21, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
I remember when I came back I got dizzy too. After a few flights with half a tank it got better. Then when I started doing different manouvers and flying inverted you are not turning in circles so much and the problem went away. I still have problems sometimes with the leaning back and looking up to do the overhead eights, but practice has made that better too.
Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Michael Boucher on February 21, 2010, 05:28:21 PM
Hi Tim, That's one pretty looking plane, cool!   #^
Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Brian Massey on February 21, 2010, 05:50:53 PM
Great looking Nobler! That really would be a shame to have to rebuild it.  ~^  Maybe another Ringmaster or Magician to practice on; then just fly the Nobler around in circles for the fun of it until you regain some skills.

Brian
Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: Bill Heher on February 21, 2010, 09:58:29 PM
A 1/2A like you described is probly turning 1 1/2 laps or better to what the Nobler will fly at, if you can fly the tank out consistently on the 1/2A, and get in some steep climbs and dives / recover to level flight, throw in a wingover and a loop or 2 , then the bigger plane will seem solid, stable and flying  a bit slower. Go for it!, and start on your next one.

Title: Re: But now I'm dizzy
Post by: john e. holliday on February 22, 2010, 09:02:30 AM
Tim, that Nobler looks great.  Hope you have the Fox well broken in.   As some has stated, it probably won't spin you as fast as the little 1/2A.  Fly it in level flight with some climbs and dives.  You will be surprised has fast you get over the dizzy's.  If you really want to get dizzy, try the 1/2a on 15 foot lines.  Did that at my son's shop one day showing the guys how to fly and it was the only area we had.  I had to stand there for a minute or two after engine quit.  My son was the same way.  Of course the guys that tried it didn't even get half a tank before decking the plane.