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Title: Brodak Zero
Post by: Balsa Butcher on July 21, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Latest from the Butcher Shop: Seems like every few months someone asks about this kit so I decided to finish mine. Power, for now is an OS35S, weight 38 ounces, Sig dope and silkspan. Test flight this weekend.  8)
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: Steve Helmick on July 21, 2014, 03:23:51 PM
Divine winds, Mr. Balsa Butcher!  H^^ Steve
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: dennis lipsett on July 21, 2014, 05:22:03 PM
There is no such thing as a bad flying Zero. I finished mine last month with an evolution 36 for urge. To say it flies great is almost an understatement
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: Steve Fitton on July 21, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
That model looks awesome!  Great finish on it!
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: George Grossardt on July 21, 2014, 06:40:54 PM
Great looking Zero.  Guess I need to get going on my ME109. 
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: Gerald Arana on July 21, 2014, 07:49:40 PM
So Pete,
Are you flying it in the ARF off?  LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

See you Sunday. (And the plane too)

Jerry
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: wwwarbird on July 21, 2014, 09:44:01 PM
Latest from the Butcher Shop: Seems like every few months someone asks about this kit so I decided to finish mine. Power, for now is an OS35S, weight 38 ounces, Sig dope and silkspan. Test flight this weekend.  8)

 Great looking plane, and LIGHT too! y1
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: Balsa Butcher on July 21, 2014, 10:38:40 PM
Thanks all, and Wayne, I thought you'd like it. Your's looks real nice also Dennis. Pictured is the other side. As far as this weekend's ARF Off Jerry, I guess I could say it was kit-bashed from a Brodak P-40 ARF but it wasn't and besides, changing a P-40 into a Zero just wouldn't be right. I'll probably just judge instead. 8)
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: wwwarbird on July 22, 2014, 09:47:25 AM

 I like it, sometimes I wish I would have done mine in green.
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: Balsa Butcher on July 22, 2014, 10:11:17 AM
That looks really good, looks like it could be entered in profile scale as well as stunt. I especially like the detailed ink lines you put on the cowling. I had originally thought to do it in grey then I found a can of Sig Dark Green in my paint locker and went that route. 8)
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: Bill Little on July 22, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
Hi Pete,

I think you will really love the Zero.  I built the prototype when Mike Garmon was designing the original Warbird series for John Brodak.  With a really well broken in OS .35S (about wore out) it proved to be an excellent flying model!  Several of my friends said I flew it better than any of my planes!  I still believe it is the best flying of the Warbird series.  That cut down Nobler wing gives it great performance if kept fairly light.

Bill
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on July 22, 2014, 11:57:27 AM
When it comes to classic good looks, the Zero is hard to beat.  I'm not fond of profiles, so I made mine the "other way".  Full stunter with RO-Jett 76.

Floyd
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: wwwarbird on July 22, 2014, 08:54:54 PM
 Thanks "Butcher", here's the whole scoop, there's actually very little "Brodak" left in mine... ;D

 http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=20254.0

 http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=20016.0

 http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=20292.0
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: Balsa Butcher on July 22, 2014, 09:24:10 PM
After reading those posts I can see why this is a special airplane for you. 8)
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: wwwarbird on July 22, 2014, 09:32:07 PM
 Thanks again "Butch".

 Mine is a fair amount heavier than yours and I fought with the Brodak on it for quite some time. I actually spent time with two different ones on it and also tried a wide variety of props with them and neither engine was ever happy on the airplane for some reason. I couldn't get either one to make any worthwhile power. Late last fall I finally mounted up a brand new LA.46 with a Pro-Zinger 11x5 and instantly had a great flying and running airplane. All is good with it now. ;D
Title: Re: Brodak Zero
Post by: Balsa Butcher on July 22, 2014, 09:53:59 PM
The the only changes I made to mine was to move the wing up in the fuselage about 1/4" to improve the vertical CG. It is not noticeable visually but may help flying wise...or not. I also moved the horizontal stab back about 1/2" in the fuselage. Being a stunt guy I just couldn't resist lenghtening the tail moment.

Wood on the kit was excellent which helped weight wise. All surfaces were done in medium silkspan over the wood, heavy over the open bay wing. It was the last of my stash of the "good stuff". Balance is good with the 35S.I have had good luck with these and hope I can stick with it. 8)